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    Getting back into ebay, scammers?

    Well I just logged back onto ebay for the first time in a while to sell some stuff I have. It seems like all the bidders have 0 feedback and the accounts are either created in the last 30 days or even were created today. What are my options if they end up winning the auction? I dont feel like getting scammed through paypal.



    Is this normal or should I be worried?

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    Quote Originally Posted by andrew1990 View Post
    Well I just logged back onto ebay for the first time in a while to sell some stuff I have. It seems like all the bidders have 0 feedback and the accounts are either created in the last 30 days or even were created today. What are my options if they end up winning the auction? I dont feel like getting scammed through paypal.

    Is this normal or should I be worried?
    You can set the auctions up with restrictions like U.S. only, feedback rating of 2-5 or better, and other things. Those are for your protection.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    feedback rating of 2-5 or better,
    I sell a lot on eBay
    No way to block based on Feed Back number
    You can block Buyers with 2 or more unpaid strikes

    That is why it is important as a Seller to open the unpaid item dispute on the non paying "Buyers"

    Open at day 4
    eBay will send them a reminder to pay
    Then 4 days after you opened the dispute >> Now at day 8 >> Close the dispute
    eBay will refund your final value fees and it is safe at that point to sell to someone else

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    I sell a lot on eBay
    No way to block based on Feed Back number
    You can block Buyers with 2 or more unpaid strikes

    That is why it is important as a Seller to open the unpaid item dispute on the non paying "Buyers"

    Open at day 4
    eBay will send them a reminder to pay
    Then 4 days after you opened the dispute >> Now at day 8 >> Close the dispute
    eBay will refund your final value fees and it is safe at that point to sell to someone else
    So, if I have a non-paying buyer for my auction I need to open a dispute? My question is that what happens on ebay's side? Do they put a black mark on the "buyer", because I've done this before and have not been able to leave any feedback (negative). Does opening the dispute accomplish the same goal? I basically want this person to not be allowed to bid if he's not going to pay.

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    Quote Originally Posted by shendog View Post
    So, if I have a non-paying buyer for my auction I need to open a dispute? My question is that what happens on ebay's side? Do they put a black mark on the "buyer", because I've done this before and have not been able to leave any feedback (negative). Does opening the dispute accomplish the same goal? I basically want this person to not be allowed to bid if he's not going to pay.
    I had a non-payer and after notifying them and waiting my required 3 days (I mention this in every one of my ad's) then I opened the dispute. Ebay sends the buyer a notice that a dispute has been opened and I think you have to wait 5 days after. In my case after about 4 days my buyer paid for it so after ebay notified me, I shipped. I doublechecked to make sure that the buyer was not in one of the affected areas of the "superstorm".

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    Quote Originally Posted by shendog View Post
    So, if I have a non-paying buyer for my auction I need to open a dispute? My question is that what happens on ebay's side? Do they put a black mark on the "buyer", because I've done this before and have not been able to leave any feedback (negative). Does opening the dispute accomplish the same goal? I basically want this person to not be allowed to bid if he's not going to pay.
    When you close the dispute neither party can leave Feed back
    If the "Buyer" has already left you a NEG >> eBay will remove it

    At that point the "Buyer" has an unpaid strike
    Sellers CAN (and should) block "Buyers" with 2 or more strikes

    That is why it is important for Sellers to open and close the unpaid dispute to give those "Buyers" strikes

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    well it may be too late for this auction

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    or, if you like to gamble, let it end "before" the freight train gets there, in case a bidder with a better rating wins

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    it should still be possible to end it early due to it getting ran over by a freight train or something, then quetly change your settings and relist the "other" one you found ; ) It might be best, if you're that worried, to eat a single set-up fee, than the whole enchilada

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bear View Post
    it should still be possible to end it early due to it getting ran over by a freight train or something, then quetly change your settings and relist the "other" one you found ; ) It might be best, if you're that worried, to eat a single set-up fee, than the whole enchilada
    eBay now charges you final value fees on auctions that you send early
    based on what the highest bid was at the time you ended the auction

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    I had freight trains run over my stuff a lot back in the day. Just couldn't see letting something with $200 in value go when the bids were only up to five bucks. If the rules are still the same you can cncl up to 24 hours before th end of the auction.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    I had freight trains run over my stuff a lot back in the day. Just couldn't see letting something with $200 in value go when the bids were only up to five bucks.
    On my items most of the bidding is done in the last 30 seconds
    I place all my bids at 2 seconds
    I either win or the other guy paid too much

    Best to start the auction at the minimum you are willing to take
    Don't forget eBay fees, now based on TOTAL Price >> Item + shipping & handling >> between 9% and 14%
    Don't forget PayPal fees >> 3% for domestic and 4% for International

    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    If the rules are still the same you can cncl up to 24 hours before th end of the auction.
    You can cancel an auction as long as it has at least 12 hours left
    http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?EndingMyAuction
    If the auction has bids, you have to cancel the bids first
    eBay now charges a Final Value Fee on auctions that are ended early that had bids based on the highest bid the item received

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnC4X4 View Post
    On my items most of the bidding is done in the last 30 seconds
    I place all my bids at 2 seconds
    I either win or the other guy paid too much

    Best to start the auction at the minimum you are willing to take
    Don't forget eBay fees, now based on TOTAL Price >> Item + shipping & handling >> between 9% and 14%
    Don't forget PayPal fees >> 3% for domestic and 4% for International



    You can cancel an auction as long as it has at least 12 hours left
    http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?EndingMyAuction
    If the auction has bids, you have to cancel the bids first
    eBay now charges a Final Value Fee on auctions that are ended early that had bids based on the highest bid the item received
    So I'm left with the opinion I already had...

    eBay sucks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurlyGuys View Post
    So I'm left with the opinion I already had...

    eBay sucks.
    I have had little to no problems
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    Easy to pull, Easy to store, Easy to ship items off the cars I scrap
    Power side mirrors, Headlight assemblies, Tail Light assemblies, window motors, dash clusters and sometimes climate control units and cup holders.

    I have also been doing well with rims, scrap about $15.00 scale,
    I list on eBay for over a hundred with FREE shipping, $18.00 in fees, $45.00 max ship >> still leaves me 35 or more if they live closer then Ca

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    I do very good with resale items found in scrap, also car parts are very lucrative . Last week i had about $1000 in sales of parts. Right now im parting out a 2002 concorde lxi, this is just one example but the chrome interior door handles with woodgrain trim are going for $80-$100 each and there are 4 of them in the car. That is just 1 part of the car, on my takeoff/estimate of the parts that i do before i bought the car says i will make in the $4000-$5000 range for all of the parts on that car. After shipping, fees, costs and overhead im looking at making a $2500 profit on the car.

    On the wheels / tires. If the tires are bald/bad and are on alloys i send them to my local tire guy, he breaks them down for me and disposes of the tire for $7 each. So after my costs scrapping those oud id only make $8-$10 each, so i resell them to local buyers and on ebay. You need to check the design/size of the alloy wheels, some of them are very pricey. Ive seen factory alloys go for $30-$200 each on ebay so your mileage will vary. 16"-18" usually go for about $100 each, 20"+ go for about $150. I have a pile of about 20 15" rims im having a hard time selling even at $40 each.
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    You can only block people that have negative feedback, 0 or higher you have to let them bid. US only is another good one. Also you can require immediate payment if the item is fixed price or for a buy it now. I have a premier level ebay store and am a silver level powerseller. Its $50 a month for my store and 5 cents per listing. I have about 600 listings up right now. Total overhead $80 a month for 600 items. But since your starting out id go with the auctions, you get 50 free auctions per month. You only pay fees if it sells.

    Now that the fee structure has changed do free shipping on 90% of the items i sell. The way i look at it is your gonna pay the fees reguardless now so just bury all of the fees in the price of the item. All of my items are fixed price with the make offer option.
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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    You can only block people that have negative feedback, 0 or higher you have to let them bid. US only is another good one. Also you can require immediate payment if the item is fixed price or for a buy it now. I have a premier level ebay store and am a silver level powerseller. Its $50 a month for my store and 5 cents per listing. I have about 600 listings up right now. Total overhead $80 a month for 600 items. But since your starting out id go with the auctions, you get 50 free auctions per month. You only pay fees if it sells.

    Now that the fee structure has changed do free shipping on 90% of the items i sell. The way i look at it is your gonna pay the fees reguardless now so just bury all of the fees in the price of the item. All of my items are fixed price with the make offer option.
    I started to do the same thing untill I called ebay and asked what happens if they open a case and want to return the item. You have to refund the full ammount they paid. IF you dont do free shipping you only have to refund the bid ammount not the shipping ammount. So be carefull on doing free shipping stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    I started to do the same thing untill I called ebay and asked what happens if they open a case and want to return the item. You have to refund the full ammount they paid. IF you dont do free shipping you only have to refund the bid ammount not the shipping ammount. So be carefull on doing free shipping stuff.
    Yes but on your return policy you have the choice of selecting seller pays return shipping or buyer pays return shipping. I have it as buyer pays return shipping. That way theres no incentive to return. Also by the way on a full refund the original shipping is also returned to the buyer. If you return the item cost only and not the shipping that is a partial refund. The full refund is the better option it shows the customer you put them first from square 1.

    My policy is full refund within 30 days if unsatisfied for any reason, reguardless of whether i charged for shipping or it was included. Also the buyer always pays return shipping costs. If there is an error on my part like i shipped them the wrong item or it was damaged in shipping then i will also cover the return shipping costs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    My policy is full refund within 30 days if unsatisfied for any reason, reguardless of whether i charged for shipping or it was included.
    eBay and PayPal both allow the Buyer to get a FULL refund for at least 45 days from the payment date
    FULL refund is item price + whatever was charged for shipping & handling

    Quote Originally Posted by jghilino View Post
    Also the buyer always pays return shipping costs. If there is an error on my part like i shipped them the wrong item or it was damaged in shipping then i will also cover the return shipping costs.
    Agreed >> Good customer service

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    Quote Originally Posted by PartTimeScrapper View Post
    IF you dont do free shipping you only have to refund the bid ammount not the shipping ammount. So be carefull on doing free shipping stuff.
    Someone gave you bad/incorrect information
    PayPal refunds FULL amount >> Item price + what is charged for shipping and handling

    So it does not matter what the split is
    If you roll the shipping cost into the item price for the FREE shipping
    Several advantages
    1. Better placement on the searches
    2. The cheap skates that want reduced shipping when they buy multiplies >> FREE is FREE << I don't discount FREE
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