Scrapping cars with Canadian titles

**IdahoScrapper** · 09-29-2012, 05:53 PM

Found this, dunno how accurate it is.

Import a vehicle from Canada into the US:

Ok, here's what NEEDS to be done. If you pay someone to bring it across, it is commercial. That means he will need to see a US Customs Broker, which costs money. How much I am not sure. If you can, bring it across yourself. Personal importations are a heck of alot less paperwork and money to dish out. The vehicle needs to meet US EPA and US DOT requirements at time of import, you also need proof of ownership (bill of sale and Canadian title), fair market value (Official Kelley Blue Book New Car and Used Car Prices and Values).

When re-entering the US, stop at the inspection booth and declare you need to import the car. They will send you into the office with your paperwork. Here's the tricky part. In order for the vehicle to meet US EPA and US DOT standards, it either needs to be labeled, or a letter of conformity from the manufacturer. EPA labeling is under the hood and must state meets US standards and DOT is in the driver side door jamb and CANNOT have the Canadian Maple Leaf. For instance, if you are bringing in a Chevy, you need a letter from GM on their letterhead stating if it meets the 2 above standards and the letter must include the VIN#. Dealer can help get the letter, but MUST be from the mfg. Or you can try contacting the mfg. directly through their addresses and phone numbers listed on Home | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...nada07032.html .EPA is exempt if it's over 21yrs old and DOT exempt if over 25yrs old(or vice versa, don't have the forms in front of me). You can see that EPA and DOT are the tricky part.

Once it is established that the EPA and DOT are met, we will fill out the rest of the paperwork for the import. You will need a CF7501, DOT form, EPA form, and duty MAY apply. The packet of papers you get from Customs needs to go to the DMV to get a title issued. Make sure there is a red stamp on the paperwork. Duty is 3% on the first $1000 and 2.5% on the balance if not made in the US, Canada, or Mexico. If the VIN starts with 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mexico, 4 & 5=US (free trade zones), anything other than the 1-5 will have duty to be paid at Customs. The fair market value is what you will be taxed on at the DMV. That's about it. It's always a good idea to call the Customs office you will be entering the US at to see if there are any small differences. The above is for Port Huron, MI. References include CFR 12.73 for EPA and CFR 12.80 for DOT on the cbp website. You may want to verify the VIN and in the driver side door jamb there should be a month and year of manufacture, jot down the MO and YR as that is the number one thing people get sent back outside to get.

If exporting a car to Canada its CFR 192.2 As stupid as it sounds, make sure the vehicle is present for import / export procedures for inspection. Failure to do this may result in penalties. If you are carrying over $10,000 cash you NEED to declare it prior to leaving and entering both countries. It's not illegal to do so, but it must be declared. There is no tax or duty on the money. If it's not declared and either country finds it, it WILL be seized. Other port phone numbers can be found at CBP.gov - home page and just click on the port tab at the top of the page and go from there. It's pretty simple to find the phone number.

Hopefully the above information can help act as a guide for anyone considering doing a cross border vehicle purchase. Procedures often change so please do your own research to make sure the information is current and relevant to your circumstances.
A good start would be to ensure the vehicle you wish to import is approved for import to your country. You may be in for a rude surprise if you skip this step.

**admin** · 09-29-2012, 08:27 PM

Originally Posted by GeorgeB

Only way to know is contact your yard.

I do know here, that you either need title or a bill of sale form in order to junk any automobile that was or is registered with DMV at one point or another.

I know I need the title, the client is right down the road and they have it. Problem is, the title is canadian.

The other problem is, the car needs to be picked up by the end of the day tomorrow because they're leaving again for canada at the end of the day. Which means I can't call the local junk yard (which pays more than the scrap yard), and ask them if a Canadian title is good enough.

Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper

Found this, dunno how accurate it is.

Import a vehicle from Canada into the US:

Ok, here's what NEEDS to be done. If you pay someone to bring it across, it is commercial. That means he will need to see a US Customs Broker, which costs money. How much I am not sure. If you can, bring it across yourself. Personal importations are a heck of alot less paperwork and money to dish out. The vehicle needs to meet US EPA and US DOT requirements at time of import, you also need proof of ownership (bill of sale and Canadian title), fair market value (Official Kelley Blue Book New Car and Used Car Prices and Values).

When re-entering the US, stop at the inspection booth and declare you need to import the car. They will send you into the office with your paperwork. Here's the tricky part. In order for the vehicle to meet US EPA and US DOT standards, it either needs to be labeled, or a letter of conformity from the manufacturer. EPA labeling is under the hood and must state meets US standards and DOT is in the driver side door jamb and CANNOT have the Canadian Maple Leaf. For instance, if you are bringing in a Chevy, you need a letter from GM on their letterhead stating if it meets the 2 above standards and the letter must include the VIN#. Dealer can help get the letter, but MUST be from the mfg. Or you can try contacting the mfg. directly through their addresses and phone numbers listed on Home | National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) at http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/...nada07032.html .EPA is exempt if it's over 21yrs old and DOT exempt if over 25yrs old(or vice versa, don't have the forms in front of me). You can see that EPA and DOT are the tricky part.

Once it is established that the EPA and DOT are met, we will fill out the rest of the paperwork for the import. You will need a CF7501, DOT form, EPA form, and duty MAY apply. The packet of papers you get from Customs needs to go to the DMV to get a title issued. Make sure there is a red stamp on the paperwork. Duty is 3% on the first $1000 and 2.5% on the balance if not made in the US, Canada, or Mexico. If the VIN starts with 1=US, 2=Canada, 3=Mexico, 4 & 5=US (free trade zones), anything other than the 1-5 will have duty to be paid at Customs. The fair market value is what you will be taxed on at the DMV. That's about it. It's always a good idea to call the Customs office you will be entering the US at to see if there are any small differences. The above is for Port Huron, MI. References include CFR 12.73 for EPA and CFR 12.80 for DOT on the cbp website. You may want to verify the VIN and in the driver side door jamb there should be a month and year of manufacture, jot down the MO and YR as that is the number one thing people get sent back outside to get.

If exporting a car to Canada its CFR 192.2 As stupid as it sounds, make sure the vehicle is present for import / export procedures for inspection. Failure to do this may result in penalties. If you are carrying over $10,000 cash you NEED to declare it prior to leaving and entering both countries. It's not illegal to do so, but it must be declared. There is no tax or duty on the money. If it's not declared and either country finds it, it WILL be seized. Other port phone numbers can be found at CBP.gov - home page and just click on the port tab at the top of the page and go from there. It's pretty simple to find the phone number.

Hopefully the above information can help act as a guide for anyone considering doing a cross border vehicle purchase. Procedures often change so please do your own research to make sure the information is current and relevant to your circumstances.
A good start would be to ensure the vehicle you wish to import is approved for import to your country. You may be in for a rude surprise if you skip this step.

Well the car is already in the US, right down the road from us. So it's not an import/export issue at the moment.

**IdahoScrapper** · 09-29-2012, 09:10 PM

Originally Posted by admin

I know I need the title, the client is right down the road and they have it. Problem is, the title is canadian.

The other problem is, the car needs to be picked up by the end of the day tomorrow because they're leaving again for canada at the end of the day. Which means I can't call the local junk yard (which pays more than the scrap yard), and ask them if a Canadian title is good enough.

Well the car is already in the US, right down the road from us. So it's not an import/export issue at the moment.

I understand that, but I can see someone giving you problems because you're buying a Canada vehicle and no paperwork to show it was properly exported into the U.S., (if it's even required in a situation as this). Just my thinking. Doesn't mean it's correct.

I am sure if I was in that situation I would have all kinds of problems and hoops to jump through. Here, I am required to have a vehicle titled in my name. So that means I buy a car, pick it up. Haul it home, go to the DMV, transfer ownership. Remove whatever I plan to keep, while waiting on new title (about 10 days), then haul the car in. Btw if it's an out of state vehicle, I have to take it to the DMV for inspection, so that's a treat when cars are dead and I have to trailer it to their tiny parking lot.

Seriously cuts into my cash flow and turnaround time. Idaho law sucks in this regard.

Does the seller have the title on him/her? I don't know of any one who ever has the title on them while traveling.