Quote Originally Posted by GeorgeB View Post
True, and I understand fully on how ebay and paypal work. They are in it for the people who make THEM money. What they don't get and understand, is that it is BOTH the seller AND buyers that make them money. Without one, there is no other.

If someone tried to mess me over on a deal, I wouldn't worry about handling it through ebay and paypal. What everyone does keep forgetting though, is that when you complete a transaction, you have the buyers/sellers information. As long as you keep good records, you deal with paypal and ebay to keep good with them, and you sue the buyer/seller outside of ebay.

Again, this isn't about the worth of an item, or what someone sells it for, or reputation, etc. It is just the principal of the matter.



Also, yes, I agree that Walmart and many restaurants do this all the time. That is their business model, but they are most likely the only retailers/restaurant you will ever find that will.

Businesses are not in business to get screwed over. They are in business to make money and treat customers the right way, but it is a 2 way street.

Even if a buyer bought an item (ram or other wise) and they had any issues with it, I would just ask for it back, and then refund them their money. I wouldn't care if it was really broken or not. If not, I will just resale it. If it is broken, to scrap it goes.

Even if you put in the listings that all items are sold as is, no refunds...that alone is a joke, since ebay and paypal don't care and will do it in a heartbeat.
Yeah, we offer a 14 day return regardless. I have to have it for the Top Rated Seller discount (which on the volume that we do, is a pretty large amount at the end of the year), plus it doesn't matter if you say as is or not, if the buyer decides they do not want it, eBay will force you to refund them the money if they can show proof it was sent back.

I understand your position on taking it up with the buyer, but it doesn't work that way in the real world. It's not cost effective, or practical to file against every scammer in the world. It would cost you too much time, money, and energy, and even if you were 100% in the right every time, you are still going to lose from time to time.