thanks for that info musicman. will check it out and may use with some other items i have, but most items are such low ticket items i have a feeling with all the other charges etc make it not worth it. Started thinking of all the items i could scrap and as to make one trip and realized i have a lot more than i realized for an e-scrap load. Just now reading about all the different sorts. Glad i never throw anything away now i can turn it into a little cash.