No i wasn't trying to get retail but scrap price is nothing compared to what a person that needed them would have to pay. Just thought there may be a better place to reach those that use the valves. I know I would hate to pay 200 for one and would like to someone to benefit from it an not just have them melted down. That way everyone is wins. I am not sure what kind of system they are used. i assume commercial. They have been in my storage for a few years but never used.