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    This is not a post about franchise help. There is not franchise opportunity available.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tcgs View Post
    Scott, You have asked me questions that I don't Either feel comfortable sharing with the world, is proprietary, or just plain intrusive. I appreciate you and deal in email for now on. Is that ok with you, or are you out to make a martyr out of me? Just want public backing your stoning.
    You are not sharing your franchise with the world? Isn't that counter productive? Isn't the entire point of being a franchiser to expose your business model to as many people as possible, like a McDonald's does?

    I would have to be correct if I were trying to gain favor for a public stoning. Are you saying that you don't want to give information because you are afraid of the backlash? And if I made a martyr out of you, wouldn't that be a positive thing for you? After all, people love martyrs, that's the entire point of being one.

    I don't understand yet again. I asked some very pointed and very easily answerable questions that you absolutely avoided answering and are now asking me to ask you in email. They are nothing that could possibly harm your business in any way, but instead promote it, I am not asking for anything proprietary, I am not asking for anything personal, but instead information that should be public domain or at least publically available to anyone whom was interested in buying into the franchise opportunity you claim to have established.

    I am done asking, I think people will draw their own conclusions regardless of what you claim or I state, I am not trying to make people believe or not what you have stated, just attempting to engage you on a level that would add value to this forum, which you seem to be avoiding at all costs and which confuses me to no end.

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    You are not sharing your franchise with the world? Isn't that counter productive? Isn't the entire point of being a franchiser to expose your business model to as many people as possible, like a McDonald's does?
    (NO SCOTT, That is not my business plan, We are not the mcdonalds of scrap)

    I would have to be correct if I were trying to gain favor for a public stoning. Are you saying that you don't want to give information because you are afraid of the backlash? And if I made a martyr out of you, wouldn't that be a positive thing for you? After all, people love martyrs, that's the entire point of being one.
    (Please consider weither this i worth it scott, you havent found out how to franchise your business, maybe its the wrong type of busiess to franchise. I thought you couldnt franchise scrap, I may still be right. Maybe I should just make one big company and have offices in every state)

    I don't understand yet again. I asked some very pointed and very easily answerable questions that you absolutely avoided answering and are now asking me to ask you in email. They are nothing that could possibly harm your business in any way, but instead promote it, I am not asking for anything proprietary, I am not asking for anything personal, but instead information that should be public domain or at least publically available to anyone whom was interested in buying into the franchise opportunity you claim to have established. ( ITs truly an invite only type of thing, I dont ever plan on advertizing it for sale to people I wouldnt hire myself just cause they have the start up cash...ie known haters, alcholholics, and gun raging phycos )

    I am done asking, I think people will draw their own conclusions regardless of what you claim or I state, I am not trying to make people believe or not what you have stated, just attempting to engage you on a level that would add value to this forum, which you seem to be avoiding at all costs and which confuses me to no end. ( keep hating scott, keep hating. Thats all I see. People hating me trying to do what they cant. )



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    I have dinner cooking, so I am going to correct you real fast, and hope this clarifies what you have obviously misunderstood.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tcgs View Post
    Please consider weither this i worth it scott, you havent found out how to franchise your business, maybe its the wrong type of busiess to franchise
    I know how to franchise, how to go about doing it, I have investigated it to death. I also know which company and law firm I am going to use if ever I decide it's worth a try. I have no problem understanding exactly what franchising means, nor do I have any problems understanding the risks and benefits. I don't think YOU understand what it means, nor do I think you have franchised otherwise you would not be so coy.

    Quote Originally Posted by Tcgs View Post
    ( ITs truly an invite only type of thing, I dont ever plan on advertizing it for sale to people I wouldnt hire myself just cause they have the start up cash...ie known haters, alcholholics, and gun raging phycos )
    What you are describing sounds more like a multi-level marketing scam, or Church of Scientology more than a franchise opportunity. Are you registered with your state as a franchise, yes or no?

    Quote Originally Posted by Tcgs View Post
    ( keep hating scott, keep hating. Thats all I see. People hating me trying to do what they cant. )
    Would you please point out specifically what I am hating? I have not expressed any hate, I don't hate, I benchmark off people who are able to do things better than me, but you have said nothing that would lead me to believe I could benchmark off you, matter of fact I specifically asked you pointed questions that I was interested in which you avoided, ignored, attempted to reason away and then asked me to ask you in private email.

    Without getting into a pissing contest with you, I think that most if not everyone on this site could do exactly what you have done without too much trouble, and most probably have done much more. But nobody will ever know until you honestly post what you have done. You realize this right? So long as you do not post what you have created, nobody can hate on you because frankly, we have no idea what to hate.

    You have a choice, you can act like an adult, or continue acting in the way you have, the choice is yours. I'm over here standing with the real men, the adults, and waiving you over. What are you going to do next?

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    This is not a post about franchise help. There is not franchise opportunity available.of a harassment charge?
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    My only crime is that of curiosity, something you seem not to be able to forgive me for.

    I don't think demeaning people adds any value to this forum, I don't like the way you talk about people, some of which according to your grouping of them I have a world of respect for, and who are also on this forum.

    I don't like the claims you make as if we should blindly believe them, and then when asked pointed questions that could benefit everyone, you refuse to even entertain to answer yet spend hours posting things about people hating on you, when it would have served you far better to simply post information about your franchise you claim to have. It makes no sense, none at all, unless you were purely being combative for no reason at all but to be so.

    And honestly, at the end of the day, I have done nothing to make you look good or bad, you have done all that yourself, all on your own. So don't blame me for people "hating" on you or "stoning" you on this thread, that has nothing to do with me. I don't play the blame game.

    If you want to have an intelligent discussion about the franchise you claim to have started, I am eager to do so, but otherwise your responses have degraded into mud slinging, name calling, and outrageous accusations that just simply are not true. Grow up, this isn't the grade school playground, either post useful information or abandon the thread and write it off as a bad mistake.

    It ends now, this has gone too far and is now entering the realm of utter uselessness!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tcgs View Post
    Whats your real issue scott? Needing to prove things. Are you forgetting to deal with me via email or is this getting to the point of a harassment charge?
    Wow!!!

    Also, Ditto to everything, and i do mean everything, Noble said. Watch out for them Po-Po's Noble.

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    Let me say this to the OP, not only have you p o'ed a good portion of this forum, you also lost the interest of the one person that could have helped you. I will say this for Noblemetalworks, when he says he is interested in your business and how you started it he is not bull****ting you. I have had dealings with Scott and have sought out advice from him in the past, which he has freely given to me. He is very knowledgeable and genuine in his responses and is willing to share information with anyone he can help.
    So in closing I would like to say this to the OP and quote a favorite movie line--- Sir, in a battle of wits you have come unarmed.
    I won't be wronged. I won't be insulted. I won't be laid a-hand on. I don't do these things to other people, and I require the same from them.” John Wayne-- The Shootist

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    I'm lucky, where I live I used to own a grocery store. Whenever I caught shoplifters, no matter what their age being that they were kids, or adults, I made them call their mothers, then I would talk to their mothers for a few minutes, and turn the phone back over to the shoplifter and watch them explain to their mother how they just got caught for shoplifting. You see I would give them the choice of either calling their mother, or I could call the police. When I did call the police I usually had already made the shoplifter admit that they came into my store with the intent of stealing, and it was usually over $400 worth of stuff, which is a felony in California, so by making sure I had them on a felony shop lifting, and a felony intent to steal, I made it worth the police officers time and effort to come down to the store and arrest the offender, the way they saw it was that they were sure to get a conviction instead of the usual ticket, release for a petty crime and later have it reduced to something that just required probably or community service. Police don't like being harassed for no good reason, or for what is a waste of time when they could be doing something more useful. So I got to know them, and they appreciate the fact I didn't call them on every little thing.

    So far as the harassment thing is concerned, I don't think the OP realizes what he was saying, nor what he was doing. When I was looking up his business I came across another by the same name.

    Green Truck - Organic Food Truck, Catering, Weddings, Private Parties

    The OP would be far more likely to be sued for using their company name, and then posting what he has on this thread, than I would be for harassing. I am not sure how many different laws he could be entangled with, but with all the negative attention I have to wonder if someone will not get one confused with the other, ending up with one of the others customers coming here and reading what he wrote and potentially harming their business and/or credibility.

    Just saying...

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