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    Quote Originally Posted by RagnBone View Post
    The way to stop the cartels is to stop the abject failure that we call The War on Drugs. That or Americans need to stop doing the drugs in the first place, which is really what funds these terrorist organizations south of the border in the first place. Either one of those things happening is about as likely as Scarlet Johansson walking into my office right now in nothing but a red bow and fingernail polish.

    I won't go on anymore either except to say that you should really sit down to think and ask yourself whether you truly believe criminal gangs that cut off the heads of men, women and children by the bus-full are really going to just pack it up and go home because you built a %$^$&* fence...
    I have considered what you refer to as a "fence". True border security will take a great deal more effort than a mere "fence".

    So would as you consider what would happen IF our southern border were controlled and only what we want to cross was effectively only what did cross. This is theoretical unless it happens and can only happen if it is seriously attempted.

    So what effect would that cause? I contend that south of the border the gangs would be forced to seek other routes and perhaps other businesses. For many the closure of the border would remove their income and they would move on. Undoubtedly the loss of income would force some real changes. Less money in the hands of criminals is a good thing.

    The users of illicit drugs in the U.S. is of course the catililist for this drug traffic. President Nixon started the war on drugs and in my opinion seems to be a failure for all these many decades. The money spent on the war on drugs would have been better spent by the taxpayers who were forced to contribute the money.

    If I knew or even had a thought worth sharing on relieving humans of drug abuse I would be shouting it.

    For those who are unaware my wife of 37 years whom entered the U.S. as a refugee from Vietnam became a naturalized citizen August 2018. The process was difficult and took us a very long time to accomplish. I'm proud of her hanging in there and passing the exam.

    My real question on why do folks still want to come here? Because there countries' truly suck. The U.S. should be held up as how to do it better.

    In the sixth grade my teacher asked my class a question. "Why has the U.S. been so much more successful than so many much older well established countries?" I asked my teacher what the correct answer was. His response was he had no idea.

    I believe I figured it out. In the U.S. you have the right to own property and control your labor freedom of movement.

    My wife had visions of what the U.S. would be like prior to coming here and for those not alive during the sixties and early seventies there was a war in Vietnam. She keep hearing about all the "freedom" going on in the U.S. Years later she told me what she discovered about freedom in the U.S. she said "In America you free to succeed and fail".



    I told you I've been holding back. 73, Mike


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