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    Quote Originally Posted by greytruck View Post
    I took a huge hit on my copper and brass. probably lost over $300 on mine but oh well, its happened before. Copper is going back up but no one is raising there prices and i dont blame them.

    One thing about the tariffs is, i hope prices actually drop back to around 100/ton for steel. I got way, way, way too much competition in my area. need some to drop out of the game. I swear its been years since the cord cutters have been around, and now seems they are back.
    Steel is a bit different here because it's so rural. It has to be trucked out in 15 ton loads in order for it to be cost effective. People occasionally try to do it by the pickup truck loads but they don't make much after expenses.



    Try to ignore the cord cutters as much as you can. It's like most anything else in life .... you only get out of a thing .... what you are willing to put into it. The cord cutters ? They generally don't make much of an effort so they don't have much to show at the end of the day. They aren't much of a threat to you.

    I'll tell ya though ... i have been tempted to coat those cords in grease, burnt transmission fluid, or old differential oil.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    Steel is a bit different here because it's so rural. It has to be trucked out in 15 ton loads in order for it to be cost effective. People occasionally try to do it by the pickup truck loads but they don't make much after expenses.

    Try to ignore the cord cutters as much as you can. It's like most anything else in life .... you only get out of a thing .... what you are willing to put into it. The cord cutters ? They generally don't make much of an effort so they don't have much to show at the end of the day. They aren't much of a threat to you.

    I'll tell ya though ... i have been tempted to coat those cords in grease, burnt transmission fluid, or old differential oil.
    Steel here is very abundant. if prices drop down the part timers drop off cause thats really all there is at the curb besides alum patio Funiture and such. Oh and Cords too lol. I agree with the cords, not much value really. just annoying if you come across a washer and dryer and the cords are gone and the wires ripped out.

    If "something" happens to your cords, it will be interesting to see how the copper holds up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greytruck View Post
    Steel here is very abundant. if prices drop down the part timers drop off cause thats really all there is at the curb besides alum patio Funiture and such. Oh and Cords too lol. I agree with the cords, not much value really. just annoying if you come across a washer and dryer and the cords are gone and the wires ripped out.

    If "something" happens to your cords, it will be interesting to see how the copper holds up.
    There really doesn't seem to be very much copper coming in. With the price being up ... all the easy stuff is picked out long before the rest is being dropped off where i am. It takes a keen eye and a bit of work to extract what little does come in. The cord cutters don't put in much effort ... nor do they know what to look for ... so they tend to walk right past what is there.

    Had a little time yesterday so i processed the 12 remaining sealed units in the shop. These ones were from fridges & freezers. I set the stators aside and left them to sit on top of some cardboard with newspaper on top. That tends to draw some of the oil out and make them a bit less messy when it comes time to process them. Cut the crowns off with the angle grinder and then tried the hammer drill to remove the windings. That was amazing. The windings practically flew out of the stator. Had all twelve processed in less than ten minutes. Many thanks to Mike for the heads up on that one !

    There is one thing about those kinds of sealed units though. Four of those twelve were aluminum wound. Maybe it's a sign of the times. They're making the fridges & freezers cheaper these days ?

    It's rare to see a washer or dryer with a copper wound motor now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hills View Post
    There really doesn't seem to be very much copper coming in. With the price being up ... all the easy stuff is picked out long before the rest is being dropped off where i am. It takes a keen eye and a bit of work to extract what little does come in. The cord cutters don't put in much effort ... nor do they know what to look for ... so they tend to walk right past what is there.

    Had a little time yesterday so i processed the 12 remaining sealed units in the shop. These ones were from fridges & freezers. I set the stators aside and left them to sit on top of some cardboard with newspaper on top. That tends to draw some of the oil out and make them a bit less messy when it comes time to process them. Cut the crowns off with the angle grinder and then tried the hammer drill to remove the windings. That was amazing. The windings practically flew out of the stator. Had all twelve processed in less than ten minutes. Many thanks to Mike for the heads up on that one !

    There is one thing about those kinds of sealed units though. Four of those twelve were aluminum wound. Maybe it's a sign of the times. They're making the fridges & freezers cheaper these days ?

    It's rare to see a washer or dryer with a copper wound motor now.
    Did you notice if the alum wound ones were from units that have that newer flammable refrigerant? those seem to always be alum wound from the few i cut open.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greytruck View Post
    Did you notice if the alum wound ones were from units that have that newer flammable refrigerant? those seem to always be alum wound from the few i cut open.
    Where this is new to me ... i never thought to keep track. There is one drained freezer that's clearly labelled cyclopentane on the back. If i get a chance ... i'll pull the compressor and check it out. Might not make much money but it would be a good learning experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greytruck View Post
    Did you notice if the alum wound ones were from units that have that newer flammable refrigerant? those seem to always be alum wound from the few i cut open.
    I had a chance to pull one out of a freezer. Processed it a few minutes ago. Sure enough ... aluminum wound !

    If i get a chance ... i'll try to write what type of refrigerant was used, and what it came out of, on the compressor from now on. It would save some time if one knew the ones to look for and the ones to avoid.

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