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    Quote Originally Posted by mthomasdev View Post
    How many 40,000 pound trailer loads can I dump in your driveway. You give me 6.5 cents and keep the rest. Sounds like a great deal for me as Ben Wietsman of Albany is only paying 71 a gross ton. 9 cents is about 202 a gross ton. If memory serves me right, the mills were paying 180 to 202 a gross ton last month.
    I can't accept any but if you only want 6.5 cents, I might buy the house behind me and convert it into a yard. That's delivered, right? I go through Solvay for everything metal as that's what's closest to me, so my information is based off their yard. If Solvay gives 202 a ton for mixed and Albany doesn't, there's a reason and since neither of us know what that reason is, it's all speculation.

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    Yea right......
    My statement remains. If you're so sure of yourself, how is it then that he's able to purchase several smaller yards, rebrand them Ben Weitsman and churn a major profit? By your chart that shouldn't be possible. But then again your chart's made up of averages pulled from serveral sources and is out of date. When you're as big a company as him, you can manipulate the market a bit by dictating the import/export rates: thus having a monopoly. It's why when Roth Steel closed up, his business increased. It's also why when he announced he'd taken a major stake in Metallico, people started paying attention.


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    Quote Originally Posted by logansryche View Post
    I can't accept any but if you only want 6.5 cents, I might buy the house behind me and convert it into a yard. That's delivered, right? I go through Solvay for everything metal as that's what's closest to me, so my information is based off their yard. If Solvay gives 202 a ton for mixed and Albany doesn't, there's a reason and since neither of us know what that reason is, it's all speculation.

    My statement remains. If you're so sure of yourself, how is it then that he's able to purchase several smaller yards, rebrand them Ben Weitsman and churn a major profit? By your chart that shouldn't be possible. But then again your chart's made up of averages pulled from serveral sources and is out of date. When you're as big a company as him, you can manipulate the market a bit by dictating the import/export rates: thus having a monopoly. It's why when Roth Steel closed up, his business increased. It's also why when he announced he'd taken a major stake in Metallico, people started paying attention.
    In its hay day look at this... Solvay scrap yard pays out more than $400,000 in one day | syracuse.com lots of scrap for sure!
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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    In its hay day look at this... Solvay scrap yard pays out more than $400,000 in one day | syracuse.com lots of scrap for sure!
    People underestimate Solvay. It also helps Crucible metal works is practically right across the street. Thanks for sharing that step back in time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logansryche View Post
    I can't accept any but if you only want 6.5 cents, I might buy the house behind me and convert it into a yard. That's delivered, right? I go through Solvay for everything metal as that's what's closest to me, so my information is based off their yard. If Solvay gives 202 a ton for mixed and Albany doesn't, there's a reason and since neither of us know what that reason is, it's all speculation.

    My statement remains. If you're so sure of yourself, how is it then that he's able to purchase several smaller yards, rebrand them Ben Weitsman and churn a major profit? By your chart that shouldn't be possible. But then again your chart's made up of averages pulled from serveral sources and is out of date. When you're as big a company as him, you can manipulate the market a bit by dictating the import/export rates: thus having a monopoly. It's why when Roth Steel closed up, his business increased. It's also why when he announced he'd taken a major stake in Metallico, people started paying attention.
    I just spoke to Missy at the Solvay yard. 71 a gross ton for light iron. She does not have a mixed metal price and seemed confused (as she should have been) when I asked her about it. Let me know when you buy that house, i'll send you everything I got.

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    Quote Originally Posted by logansryche View Post
    I can't accept any but if you only want 6.5 cents, I might buy the house behind me and convert it into a yard. That's delivered, right? I go through Solvay for everything metal as that's what's closest to me, so my information is based off their yard. If Solvay gives 202 a ton for mixed and Albany doesn't, there's a reason and since neither of us know what that reason is, it's all speculation.
    Trying to attach the latest price sheet from the Albany yard. Would assume Solvay was fairly similar. No mixed metal here and light iron (which is what plastic tub dishwasher would go as if accepted) is at 71 / GT.

    The $202 that I mentioned was the high end of what mills were paying last month for various steel grades. No way a yard could pay 9 cents (201.6 GT) for a dishwasher that has to go thru the shredder and is at best 75% metal.

    At the request of others that have said to drop this, I will not comment on these ridiculous claims of 9 cents a pound any more.

    In regards to "Mixed Metals", I don't know if you are sycic (spelling) or what. There is an article on "American Metal Market" about Adam starting to process "Mixed Metals". I have a FB message into them, trying to get a copy of the article. Unfortunately my trail subscription to American Metal Market is over and I can't get it.
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