yes some of them have ball valves. so are you saying just take handle off to get brass price for scrap? Its a shame to have to scrap them since they retail for so much more. I listed them on craigslist with only one response and they wanted a lot of 50 i only have 10. I tried to ad pic as my profile pic so you could see them since i cant ad to post thread. How long does it take to be able to post pics on here?