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    no more "shockin" stories for yall LOL


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    Electric will head towards an earth ground before anything else. You are just giving it a path of least resistance, being that copper wire is a good conductor. I seen the after effects of a bolt of lightning coming in a power outlet in a guys living room and shooting across the room(thru the couch) and exiting out another power outlet. Sure trashed the electric lines in that house.
    That's why lightning will hit a tree, it's well grounded and very wet inside from the sap, and very tall.
    run it under the suction cup... That's how they teach it in school.
    The voltage does not stay hidden under the suction cup but in the can capacitors mounted on the circuit board. There is a video on YouTube that shows 4 or 5 can capacitors piggybacked together and supplied with voltage. When they flip a switch the can caps' will smash an aluminum can with the voltage surge, it's cool.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mechanic688 View Post
    Electric will head towards an earth ground before anything else.
    I agree for items plugged in. (Or 30,000 amps from a bolt of lightning). Lightning is static elictricy on a huge level. We are talking about electricity stored in capacitors This item isn't plugged in and ground has been taken out of the circuit. To complete the circuit you need to involve the other side of the capacitance, which is not connected in any way to ground.

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    The voltage does not stay hidden under the suction cup but in the can capacitors mounted on the circuit board.
    That is true also, these caps will hold a charge, but a huge charge is held inside the glass. The entire CRT tube is a huge capacitor and that's where a large shock is hiding.

    Really, don't take my word for it. Google this for yourself. There are lots of documets out there. People have been dealing with this ever since the days of black and white. Here's another link for you to consider.

    http://lowendmac.com/tech/crt_danger.html

    In all actuality, unless these units have been plugged in recently you would have very little to worry about. I would discharge them anyway just to be safe. An ounce of prevention is worth something... something... something.
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    When I was in the army, I went to class with an individual that was raised by monks that were secretly ninjas. He would sneak over to the rival ninja academy at night to see his girlfriend. I was really disappointed with how poorly ninja's played hacky sack in combat boots.

    The moral? Maybe I'm full of it also. You never know. Always verify from several sources before you trust anything on the internet!

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    I work on stuff on my dining room table. Right outside the window I have a piece of rebar stuck in the ground. I have a wire connected from that to a flathead screwdriver inside. Always double check the connection beforehand. I've never heard that "pop" sound when discharging em though and I've done about 20 TV's. I wear gloves when messing with it even after discharging just incase.
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    looks to me like the last paragraph supports everything M688 and others have warned us about....and he just kinda glosses over it. (in the site wdaddy recommended above)
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    There is no return path to the capacitors if you short one end to ground.
    I'm not trying to teach an electronics class, I'm just trying to keep some new-bee's safe so they don't have to go thru what Hoss did. You do it your way and I'll do what I've done for over 20 years
    playing with TV's and tube amplifiers. We'll just agree to disagree,,,

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    Holy buhjesus yall. Run outta beer an tobaccer in the south/east or what?

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    That is the funniest thing Ive heard in a while

    Ill stay away from tv's, lets just say i need to keep all that have already
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    sounds mpre serious than other stories I havr heard. remember in the future always discharge to be safe. glad you are alright man.
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    what bout caps in a AC window unit ? They need to be discharged also ?
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    Good to see this classic thread again! lol - now if someone could find the blow-up doll story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrapette View Post
    Good to see this classic thread again! lol - now if someone could find the blow-up doll story.
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    Isn't there a story that goes with that pic? Something about Hoss getting pulled over by the police with the doll in the back seat? LMAO.

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    Blow up dolls, burnt taters, offensive shirts...

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    Hey, hold up there Hoss!! She kinda resembles my first girlfriend!!!
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    That's why I wait two weeks before taking apart TVs. I don't
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    Now that there's funny. sry Hoss probably wasn't at the time.
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    okay.. just finished all three of the 'recommended' threads http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/elect...g-monitor.html http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/elect...ing-guide.html and this one! and I gotta give a big THANK YOU to all the contributors. I just picked up a half dozen monitors yestrday...(they came with a free pile, TAKE IT ALL) I'm sure none have been plugged in for months, probably over a year. I still plan to use the screwdriver grounded clamp to discharge anything, but wondering, is there a time limit on the life of "bleed off resistors" holding the voltage? ie less chance the longer it has been without power?
    I'm not real tech savvy and would hate to miss discharging something that might still hold a charge. Any tips on exactly what I'm looking for? or a sure fire way to tell if everything IS discharged and safe?


    .........and for the blowup doll post. I keep two around, I like to make one watch!

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    Ah, Hoss, it's good to see this thread rear up once in a while. Probably should be made a sticky.
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