It started out as a spreadsheet.. lol but a lot of the time I was writing vba code in excel to do different things. So i figured I might as well get rid of all the un needed stuff in excel so it is more user friendly to my computer illiterate employees that kept messing stuff up. It uses a database now instead of sheets like it was using in excel (although I could have used a database in excel but didn't). thanks for the comment.