Aluminum Alloy Identification...

**NobleMetalWorks** · 01-26-2016, 07:31 PM

Originally Posted by AAInt

We're making this alloy from UBC at a facility I'm a part owner of overseas. I would like to market this here in the U.S. but I'm having trouble identifying it's series.

Most likely the United States has different alloy requirements.

If this is All from drink cans, you should probably contact BALL metal, as they produce a large percentage of the Al cans used for drink production. They would be able to tell you what the exact alloy composition should be.

I think what most people find confusing is that while you state that you own this company, it doesn't seem like you understand the type of alloys your company is making. Did I misunderstand something? Do you really not understand the industry you take part in or who your buyers would be?

Understand your input material, it's origin, composition, contact those companies they deal in All as they would have the answers you are looking for, or end manufacturers such as BALL metal that produces Al cans for drinks.

Simple, logical, not sure I understand why this seems so difficult for you unless you are just a broker looking to sell a companies product in the US.

You should also realize that it is a very expensive proposition to refine Al, as it requires electrolytic refining using a specific mineral in it's molten state. If your Al was refined, it would be far easier to locate buyers. If the company you are having as broker for has the ability to also refine, you might have a lucrative and viable business in that you could send them Al scrap, have it refined and then sell to anyone in the world that uses Al. As a broker, you could easily make a g9d living if dealing with large quantities.

And in certain states, you can be paid to buy back Al cans, etc. And then sell the product to a company to refine, or have it refined yourself then selling the refined product to an end user.

I find it exceedingly difficult to imagine any situation where you might own a company overseas, that deals with Al alloy scrap and not understand your Al alloy well enough to understand your market. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Alternatively, you could have your Al assayed, get a certificate as to the alloy composition and type, and then locate the proper market.

Regardless, there is something you are either not being honest about, or are utterly clueless about, that you have not expressed. Being honest is paramount if you honestly intend to do any business in the metal markets in the US. The laws are strict, and importing metals also very strict.

Scott

**Smf-retired-user-0043** · 01-26-2016, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by NobleMetalWorks

Most likely the United States has different alloy requirements.

If this is All from drink cans, you should probably contact BALL metal, as they produce a large percentage of the Al cans used for drink production. They would be able to tell you what the exact alloy composition should be.

I think what most people find confusing is that while you state that you own this company, it doesn't seem like you understand the type of alloys your company is making. Did I misunderstand something? Do you really not understand the industry you take part in or who your buyers would be?

Understand your input material, it's origin, composition, contact those companies they deal in All as they would have the answers you are looking for, or end manufacturers such as BALL metal that produces Al cans for drinks.

Simple, logical, not sure I understand why this seems so difficult for you unless you are just a broker looking to sell a companies product in the US.

You should also realize that it is a very expensive proposition to refine Al, as it requires electrolytic refining using a specific mineral in it's molten state. If your Al was refined, it would be far easier to locate buyers. If the company you are having as broker for has the ability to also refine, you might have a lucrative and viable business in that you could send them Al scrap, have it refined and then sell to anyone in the world that uses Al. As a broker, you could easily make a g9d living if dealing with large quantities.

And in certain states, you can be paid to buy back Al cans, etc. And then sell the product to a company to refine, or have it refined yourself then selling the refined product to an end user.

I find it exceedingly difficult to imagine any situation where you might own a company overseas, that deals with Al alloy scrap and not understand your Al alloy well enough to understand your market. That makes absolutely no sense at all.

Alternatively, you could have your Al assayed, get a certificate as to the alloy composition and type, and then locate the proper market.

Regardless, there is something you are either not being honest about, or are utterly clueless about, that you have not expressed. Being honest is paramount if you honestly intend to do any business in the metal markets in the US. The laws are strict, and importing metals also very strict.

Scott

I'm thinking company "A" prepares proprietary alloy recipe for company "B" who use the finished alloy or sell it to other companies and that the OP has taken notice of the amount being shipped from company "A" and that he has hopes of capitalising in other markets outside of Asia where patents may not apply.

Like the man said he's a businessman and we all know these come in many flavours.