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    Quote Originally Posted by AdmiralAluminum View Post
    Who IS in charge of making your product? shouldnt they know?
    What part of "the facility is overseas" don't you comprehend? Believe it or not, there are metallurgist overseas that have 0 concept of American trade names. Thanks for the input.


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    Quote Originally Posted by AAInt View Post
    What part of "the facility is overseas" don't you comprehend? Believe it or not, there are metallurgist overseas that have 0 concept of American trade names. Thanks for the input.
    The company you claim to own, or be part owner of, sounds like it's just melting scrap metals of unknown alloys, which is scrap metal not a refined, end product. I saw in one of your other posts where you state Al sells for X amount, but you are selling your for a higher price because it's whatever alloy you are melting, and you seem to believe that since it's already alloyed in the specific way it's worth more.

    First problem you have is that your metal is scrap, not, I repeat NOT a refined end product. Anytime you melt a particular metal, specially metals like Al, you have a loss of a certain percentage of related to specific metals in the alloy you are melting, that changes the alloy composition. Your alloy is not assayed nor certified, so all you have is scrap Al, with impurities that would require refining. Thus your alloy would not be valued as pure Al and certainly not a certified alloy. That means you can only ask for scrap value, and since the cost to refine is expensive, the price your recycled and melted alloy might bring would be of far less value.

    I would suggest, buffering whatever metals are required to certify your Al alloy for US consumption. This can be expensive in and of itself.

    Again, it disturbs me you claim to be part owner in this company, and have no clue as to these issues. You should have experienced these issues if selling certified alloys. Otherwise I can only assume your company has a melt furnace, and just throwing scrap in, to melt, and attempting to market this recycled Al with impurities as a certified alloy, ready to use.

    Have you had this alloy properly assayed? After melting, you would notice % changes in the alloy composition. You should at least be using an XRF to check alloy composition prior to melting so that you might formulate the proper flux components, and after melting prior to sending off for proper assay and certification. It doesn't seem per your post that your recycling company has a proper metallurgist on the payroll.

    Trying to sell your material as a proper alloy really amounts to criminal activity. As a refiner, I find this exceedingly distasteful.

    And what is the name of your company?

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    Last edited by NobleMetalWorks; 01-26-2016 at 08:44 PM.
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