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    I understand that it seems like nothing is wrong with this, and I know it takes place all the time. It doesn't mean that it's legal. Every piece of software has a licensing agreement attached to it. For example, here is the one for Adobe Photoshop:



    http://wwwimages.adobe.com/www.adobe...ms/pdf/CS6.pdf

    Now, there can be varying opinions on what follows these licenses. But, what really matters is what the software company thinks. If they believe you are breaking the law, they will go after you. It doesn't matter if they will win or not; you will have a bunch of crap to deal with. I had an experience many years ago with this topic. I wasn't even distributing anything, nor had any pirated software in my possession. I was contacted by lawyers accusing me of contributory copyright infringement, and I did not have the time, resources, or desire to fight them.

    You can keep doing what you are doing, and never have any problems. I just wanted everyone to keep this in mind. This subject is taken very seriously by software companies.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ryanw View Post
    I understand that it seems like nothing is wrong with this, and I know it takes place all the time. It doesn't mean that it's legal. Every piece of software has a licensing agreement attached to it. For example, here is the one for Adobe Photoshop....
    Ryan,

    Thank you for your concern.

    We are concerned about piracy, as well, since we are a software company.

    The SystemSaver software does not violate any licensing agreements because it does not alter, change or add any licenses to the computer. We currently provide SystemSaver to 80% of the Pawn Shops in the US. The software and it's processes have been vetted by legal and the only exclusion is, if a software EULA requires you to remove the program prior to resale, then it must be removed. Hopefully, this answers your question.

    Please post or PM any further questions.

    Thanks!

    Paul

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    retired technology teacher, 39yrs experience,


    Been retired for 2 yrs, last experience was that Microsoft extended its license through some type of free program for computers that were used for education.
    win 98, me, 2000, and possibly xp (not sure about that).

    As Paul stated above if no licenses are altered or changed, should not be a problem or concern.
    Someone paid for the program in the first place, so it should go with the computer when its sold, scrapped, etc.

    Besides, in IN anyway the state universities offer software, microsoft OS, Adobe,etc for low $. Like 5$.

    I have never used System Saver, but if was still in the classroom it sounds like something we'd be using everyday to restore donated systems and I will be tryin it for some old systems I have in storage.

    Just my opinion,

    Clarke

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    Quote Originally Posted by WhiteCanyonSoftware View Post
    Ryan,

    Thank you for your concern.

    We are concerned about piracy, as well, since we are a software company.

    The SystemSaver software does not violate any licensing agreements because it does not alter, change or add any licenses to the computer. We currently provide SystemSaver to 80% of the Pawn Shops in the US. The software and it's processes have been vetted by legal and the only exclusion is, if a software EULA requires you to remove the program prior to resale, then it must be removed. Hopefully, this answers your question.

    Please post or PM any further questions.

    Thanks!

    Paul
    Thanks for addressing the concerns, Paul!

    and cpayne, thank you for 39yrs of teaching and your input here!

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