Saw this moron at the yard this a.m. Please dont load your truck like this guy. His front end was almost off the ground..... Camera sucks but his rear driver side tire is also flat
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Saw this moron at the yard this a.m. Please dont load your truck like this guy. His front end was almost off the ground..... Camera sucks but his rear driver side tire is also flat
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... im impressed
Do I think he is dumb for doing that and that it is dangerous? Of course. But still pretty impressive!
That truck looks pretty rough from behind.
Maybe he dropped off the whole works and walked home ? :D
Ugh. Sure he should worry about his own safety but what really gets me is I don't see anything warning other vehicles about the tremendous overhang. That's super dangerous!
The driver/owner of this vehicle was one of the following:
1. Desperate
2. Genuinely just not smart
3. Greedy for not making 2 trips just to save 3$ and an idiot with no regard to the safety of anyone else
Do you think scrapyards should be like bars where the bar can have some liability if they over serve someone and then that person kills by driving after getting drunk? Should they turn away someone with a vehicle that badly loaded? Most yards work with local PD to begin with, requiring ID etc...
It takes all kinds. That guy probably doesn't even have vehicle insurance!
That's not what I am saying/meant. Ethically they could be liable to keep buying this guys scrap - at the same time I wouldn't have taken his plates or reported him/her - they could be desperate even if they aren't clever for loading it that way and they did make it to they yard with everything still on the truck in theory.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
Just like a bar stops serving someone drinks - maybe the yard should refuse the load or reduce the price paid for his scrap, but a warning first stupid load - something along those lines.
Just like a dump where you pay to dispose of refuse, they charge more for a load not covered etc...
I have never seen badly loaded trailers/truck beds like that in NZ. ( Well maybe that one where they seemed to have just strapped 100 bycycles all over a camper van )
Nothing like what is seen in photos on the internet.
Im not sure why that is really, if a Kiwi can, they would. But i simply do not see badly loaded trailers here.
Even a lot of just 'loaded trailers/pickup. "Heres my scrap day" photos' i see on here we either wouldnt do, and wouldnt get away with.
That photo, theres no way anybody would have a fridge stacked on a angle like that, ever. We dont waste space & everythings 'square' roped properly & probably got a tarp & more ropes over that.
Well i was weighing out at that moment i took the pic so i wasnt around to see what unfolded... Probably his truck unfolded LOL. After he cleared the scale he went to the non ferrous building instead of the shred pile, for what i dont know.
Anyways, ive seen many ridiculous loads before but that one was unacceptable. To bad i didnt get a shot from the side. i was driving threw and not playing phone at that moment. there was another fridge on top of the heap in the front of his bed on a angle. Its on the drivers side leaning if you can see it in the crappy pic.
Aside from the driving on the road like that. imagine whats ganna happen when he takes the straps off. also, what are the straps even secured to??? Are they shut in the door???
Ha!! As i scrolled down to this post. Guess who i seen threw the window drive past the house??? Yep, the good ol' boys in blue.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
Im sure that guy is pretty stupid, and we know how stupid works. Im sure he will do this again if he got away with it once. It will catch up with him and im also sure the yard manager will say something to him. Hes not one to play around.
Not seeing a question in there anywhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
Point is that it didn't happen. He made it to the yard - maybe he/she has kids too and is desperate or maybe just someone addicted to drugs badly needing a fix. If seeing that mess on the road driving - sure call it in - you are right there is a responsibility to do something - that's what I have been saying the whole time. Behavior would better be stopped for fear of not being able to cash in vs. avoiding the PD and driving the back roads with a stupid load etc...
Yard has the right and really the responsibility ethically to refuse the load/pay less for the load or call it in - maybe a mercy warning the first time - otherwise the argument for anyone to call it in has no validity. If someone sees it and does nothing,... isn't the scrapyard "someone"?
It's contradictory to say "greytruck" had a responsibility to make a call and report what he saw at the scrapyard and then say the scrapyard itself doesn't - what - scrapyards don't have to be responsible for anything?
Here's a question for you.
What will better prevent the behavior? Idiot in overloaded truck: "I can't take this load to the yard cause they won't take it AND I risk a ticket along the way" or "I risk a ticket but I get my 40$ if I make it cause they will take my metal on my overloaded truck - I feel proud"? Almost a guarantee there would be no reason for him to do this again since there would be no benefit now.
Stupid behavior involving public safety prevention is better than after the fact consequences and someone getting hurt.
LOL - probably trying to cash in some bronze colored coat hangers for copper wire.Quote:
Originally Posted by greytruck
Something like that lol Classy fellaQuote:
Originally Posted by SKWrapper
I thought I've seen some skechy rigs out here, but nothing like that. I'll bet you the truck is a half-ton too, not rated to carry half of what's on there. I always thought my 1986 Dodge 3/4 ton was a little bit "not totally legit", but geez.... that's just reckless. Of course, I haul computer cases, so overloading a truck with them.... yeah, not gonna happen
hell no they shouldn't turn someone away with a load that bad. That means the guy then has to drive even further with the said sketchy load. If you really care about safety you'll get him to get it unloaded right then and there like he planned to do. And not paying guys like that won't work either because they will just not unload and drive even further. Plus unless the yard has a monopoly going on in the area there is no way to actually tell where the guy is going or if he's even headed to the yard. he might be trying to pick up more or go to his house and hoard it or throw it on a bigger truck. And if the guy made it to the yard obviously he avoided major wrecks. If he wrecks on the way out there ain't nothing the yard can do about it. The difference between someone getting messed up at a bar and killing someone and someone wrecking on the way to a junkyard, is the bar "observed" said driver and sold the driver a product they procured. a junkyard has no idea whats rolling down the road about to come onto the scale. How can you hold me liable for someone coming to my yard when I had no knowledge of anything they did before they entered my driveway? If they make it I will see what they have but now I'm in a pickle. because if you want the whole turnaround thing to happen like tarps at the dump, then legally I am not allowed to let this guy unload. but morally if this guy wrecks and kills someone heading home loaded and unsafe when he could have been empty going home then that is my fault. sorry if I ramble a bit I'm loosing my mind out here and about to fall asleep at the moment. But do you get the point I was trying to make?Quote:
Originally Posted by SKWrapper
Let me ask you, If you were running a store like Lowes selling all kinds of construction material, you place an order for 48,000lbs. of cement blocks. Thats a perfectly normal weight for flatbeds to haul. The place you order from uses their own trucks. The trucker gets into a fatal accident. They do an investigation and find that the truck that was hauling the material was only a single axle day cab. Would you now be accountable for that accident? all you did was place an order from a company for a certain amount of material.
NP? Don't know what that is. I assume slang for something.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
Boring? Well... why chime in?
The quickest way to kill a friendly conversation, bring up politics or religion.
Lets not get all political around here and keep topics related to scrapping metals and making money .... lol
I still don't get it - I kinda don't care. LOL sorry not into politics - I assume that's some political reference.
Yeah I am certain it would help - giving a peddler a penalty for overloading their truck if all yards in close proximity did it. I don't care if you agree or not.
It's the same reason dumps around here charge more for vehicles without a covered load, it kinda works (sighs all over the highway that it's illegal) - but there would be no hilariously overloaded pickups to laugh at if things were that way with scrapyards, and less revenue for the PD and county for issuing citations I suppose, kinda like speed cameras - generates revenue but does nothing for safety (snaps a pic of the speeder but does not slow them down like an officer would).
Meanwhile - I've loaded up the car trunk with a bunch of e-waste, and aluminum etc... Gotta bring in the truck tomorrow - and not overload it - but good to know I could be idiot enough to overload it and get away with it and cash it all in, not that I would...
I have some stuff (once separated and sorted etc...) I might post to see if someone here wants to buy....
BTW my sedan looks nicer parked next to my colleagues' car, and I brought down the value of his car by parking next to him. :lol:
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Originally Posted by SKWrapper
MMMMMMM that is a nice ass car (his not your sedan LOL), also looks like a nice load there
I love making stuff look worth nothing. One of my crazy fantasies is to go to a nice restaurant with my 1986 Dodge and have it valeted. I just want to see the look of the guy who has to valet a truck with a scrap cage on it, and a miscolored door.
Trips out here are a lot longer than most of you have, but I'd never drive something as stupid as the truck in this thread- not even if the scrapyard was right across the street. There's a reason there are things called "Trailers"
Honestly I don't care but the guy obviously has problems...…..If he is driving that truck he his in serious bad shape...…..He will get pulled over sooner or later and just put himself deeper in debt...…….The endless cycle of poverty...…..He won't have enough money to fix the truck or pay the tickets and will end up back in jail not being able to work at all...…….We must somehow break the cycle
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Originally Posted by matador
I would LOVE to see that. If you do it, please bring along a go-pro, film it, and throw it up on the youtube. In almost an exact reverse of that situation (crap car, in nice place vs nice car in crap place), before I got my truck I was pulling up to the scrap yard in a nice, V8, 400hp Mercedes Benz and unloading scrap. Also used that to pick up stuff out of the garbage. For sure got some looks and raised eyebrows.... What vehicle you have shouldn't define someone, but people definitely expect different people and different professions to drive different vehicles....
Which is odd since the most common vehicle of millionaires is a ford F150 truck. People expect people with money to drive something flashy, when infact it is usually the people in the flashy cars with no money and in a ton of debt, and the people in the beaters and trucks that have the most money.....
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Originally Posted by mikeinreco
This is probably true. This is probably a person who is trying to stretch every dollar they have, and probably has some issue and needs money.... I do feel bad for their situation, and people in similar situations. They seem like they got there with no harm, no foul. But it is obviously not something anyone would approve of.
He's a good friend, he told me he actually appreciates me parking next to him cause' he knows I won't door ding him - and it's partly why I did it, and he's next to a disabled parking spot that's never used.Quote:
Originally Posted by kss
I said nothing about changing the laws. I was talking about ethics primarily if you take a closer peek... it's along the same lines as see something say something - the yard "saw" the desperate guy with the dangerous load, but I guess they should ignore it if they are going to make profit? Again - I get it. Greed runs the world. Ethics are hardly understood - and laws can't change people's minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
There's no "law" that makes a scrapyard decide to (try to) refuse tin cans... there's no law that a scrapyard refuse to take chain link fence, or plastic tub dishwashers, microwave oven or printers - "no smoking in the shredder yard" it's their own policy. No law is needed for a yard to create a policy on their own property.
Something to do I guess. I didn't know I made that much of an impression on you.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackgold12
I am going to format some drives and contact some buyers here. Should of done that before instead of going to a yard with them last time. Hindsight is 20/20. One buyer less than a 30 minute drive from me and another near some of my wife's relatives to the north.
I absolutely get the point you made and I didn't mean to offend you.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries
For something to work like what I suggested, all yards in close proximity of each other would have to all have the same or similar policy, it actually would be profitable to the yard because you could pay less to the careless people - ex. they only get 50% shred price for their dangerous load.
I agree turning them away would be more of a disaster and then as you suggested if they hurt someone even though legally you would not be responsible but ethically you might be a little guilty cause you didn't let them unload, they could have had an empty truck - at the same time you had nothing to do with the idiot loading up his truck like that to begin with - and he's probably going to do it again - and so the cycle continues. Nothing really you can do.
Yeah, I wasn't offended. just tired. When I get tired sometimes I can ramble online about things i have some type of passion in. But yeah theres really not much we can do at the yard to stop that sorta thing from happening. As someone who actually had to interact with customers coming in, I've seen a fair bit of things come across the scale, but turning them away if they have a sketchy load won't stop anything really. If anything that law the landfills have with the tarps just encourages illegal dumping in my opinion. When I was working for the state the bosses made me go out and refuse an incoming load of salt that we ordered because the driver didn't have a tarp. So instead of doing the right thing he just wanted the load off his truck so he dumped it in the middle of the road so that we'd have to work harder to clean it up. Same thing happens with trash. why buy a tarp and then pay the dump fee when theres an isolated section of land nearby to get rid of stuff for "Free". not saying its the right thing to do. Actually I get really pissed seeing things dumped illegally, but its the reality. Not trying to dive into political beliefs but thats just what I've seen first hand.Quote:
Originally Posted by SKWrapper
But on a side note, has steel started to come back up in price recently? last time I heard it was $2/hundred at most places. Is it still in that ball park?
Got $5/100 for shred here Knoxville tn...…….Agree about the trash...…..municipalities need to make it easy and cheap for people to dispose of waste or unfortunately people dispose of it the best they can legal or illegal...…...Facts of lifeQuote:
Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries
I would have told them it’s a package deal for truck and scrp
:lol::lol:Quote:
I would have told them it’s a package deal for truck and scrap
Worked in a scrap yard years ago, guy drives in with a truck loaded something like the OP, soon as he pulls off the scale the truck broke in half, so the whole thing stayed :)
[QUOTE]Worked in a scrap yard years ago, guy drives in with a truck loaded something like the OP, soon as he pulls off the scale the truck broke in half, so the whole thing stayed [QUOTE]
Irony fitting a scrap yard!!
Someday, someday....Quote:
Originally Posted by kss
I've never understood the whole "make people think you have money with what you drive" logic. I'm a huge Dave Ramsey guy, so I'm sure that tells a lot about my thinking. But, I honestly don't care what people think of me. That Dodge was paid for the moment the auctioneer said "Sold", and I've more than made my money off of her. Best $450 I ever spent....
Between the scrap side of my business growing and my More Than Scrap business here going well, I don't even have time to worry about the Dodge. As long as she runs, she has a home.
KSS, I can't remember if this impacted your lot or not... but about a month ago the transmission in my Jetta decided it didn't want to get me home. So, I rode home with a friend, borrowed his car trailer, and towed it home the next day. The car dying pissed me off, but I was more pissed off that I had lots in to test for people, and I was wasting an entire day to go pick up the stupid car. I had another time where the neighbor needed someone to drive a grain truck in on short notice. I had packages to ship. So, I did what any person would do....
https://i.imgur.com/hfnTkCj.jpg
I swear, at some point I should just start a thread about all the things that have happened to me with vehicles. I've done a lot of odd things. I look outside my window at my pallet hauling trailer, and want to shake my head at how rednecked my setup is. But, compared to what I've done in the past, it's a lot better.
Maybe I'm losing the stupidity I had when I was younger....
Making good decisions comes from experience, and experience comes from making bad decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by matador
Experience could also come from being taught the right. I now some people who have 25 years of experience doing something the wrong way.
You either have $$ or you don't. Car is nearly irrelevant. I personally know a millionaire that regularly drives what would be considered "lesser" than my 94 S10 - and I know several people with similar income to mine that drive a very nice, very expensive car.Quote:
Originally Posted by matador
I don't care what people think of me either. If I did, and I were of high school mentality, I probably wouldn't ever be seen ruining metal or e-waste in my pickup since the stereotype of a scrapper is a poor, un-educated crackhead trying to get $$ for drugs LOL.
Don't be this guy. ;)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrRUXsDumrM
Presentation is important ... especially when running a business.
Agree with it or not ... most people go by looks. You never get a second chance to make a first impression on a new customer.