Large loads........

I don't even want appliances or small junk these days........ this stuff is easier money!!! Requires a big truck, big trailer and a bigger winch!!! But its bank when you haul a load in!!! My trailer and winch aren't quite big enough for this stuff so I contract it out to a buddy, he does it cheap! If this trailer isn't big enough we also have access to a 40' tandem dually gooseneck that is rated for 30k or something stupid....

The red Dodge is one of my trucks, I outfitted it with custom engine driven on board air system, 145 PSI and 5 gallon tank, enough volume to keep up with my Ingersoll impact wrench. I also installed a 1k watt inverter which runs most power tools (Dewalt Sawzall). I do a lot of vehicles (junk and runners to resell) and recently got into the larger stuff now too so this morning we field prepped the combine (drain fluids, pull radiator and battery, whatever wire is easy and random souvenirs that are worth good coin on Ebay. Then had buddy show up and winch it on the trailer and haul it in. When we got back from that we drug the old International 2.5 ton truck out and field prepped it and winched it on to take in tomorrow. The combine weighed 8900 lbs and the truck seems to weigh a little more (guessing 10-12k). Aired tires up on combine, winched it on and then flattened the tires to reduce height. Even sitting on the rims it was 14' 2" to top of the grain hopper on the trailer! It was butt puckering going under some power lines and we had to detour down country roads to avoid a 13' 7" bridge on the highway but we got er there safe and sound!

We have another combine one size smaller than this one to haul as well. Have to find something big enough to drag it out of the woods first. Its sank to its axles over the years... Plus, there's the 3 row corn head from the combine we hauled in today, and a 2 row head from the other one, and a grain head as well... have to bring in a skidsteer or backhoe to load those pieces I believe.

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WOW i cant believe they are letting you have all that. Usually farmers will try to sell that stuff off. I'm not sure the condition of all the stuff. Nice find by the way.

Excellent! Goos story.

nice wish i had loads like that were i am scrap metalscrap metalscrap metalscrap metal!

Wellllll....... I paid for the stuff it wasn't "free" but it was close enough to free!!! I can't say what I paid for it but it was veeerrrrryyyy little! My partner and his uncle had stopped there before a couple years ago to ask about getting stuff from em, and the ol man put a pistol in their face... My partner didn't realize it was the same house, his cousin gave us a tip about a Ford Ranger they had out back, so he and I stopped, the ol farmer stood nose to nose with my partner for about a minute and a half before he backed down, now we are like nephews to him LOL he's all buddy buddy with us now!!! He co-owned this combine with his brother and told us to give his brother the brother's half of the money for the combine but not to pay him, we'd settle up later in favors or whatever... and the brother has the other combine, the international flatbed pictured, and has already sold us 5 vehicles all dirt cheap!!! This lead on a Ranger turned into quite a honey hole for us...

As for the condition, every single vehicle was parked 15-20 years ago including the combines and judging from the looks, the combines weren't extremely operable even then, just movable. There was no coolant in any of them, and most everything has been eaten alive by rodents, wiring and radiator hoses are nibbled down to zilch. The big International truck's oil pan for the engine was laying in the bed of the truck, likely had been there since shortly after it was parked. We do have to drain fluids out before taking this stuff in, and the fluids all looked really nasty, gear oil was extremely thick and goopy, and the engine oil in the combine was more water than oil, and appeared to be the color of watered down coolant for a large part of it. And only got about 6 or 7 gallons of fluids from the combine and International together so that tells ya something LOL

I'll post back tomorrow on the weight of the ol' International truck...

Still a nice find even if you had to pay some. I plan on going to some farm auctions this year to see what i can get.

Good thinking :)

Nice work but hope u got a cdl to haul all that big and heavy stuff!

Although I do have a CDL, I personally don't need one as I contracted it out. The driver would be the one needing CDL. I was just a passenger once it was loaded. ;)

The yards that I was hauling to, wanted all the big stuff cut down. When I hauled a 2.5 ton truck like the IHC you have. I had to take it back and cut it in half at least, before they would take it. Now I understand that if you take it straight to the mill, they will take it, at a lower price.

Just wondering if you were running into anything like that?

Well the only yard around here that takes 'em whole, ya hafta drain fluids (they tell you that anyway but we've yet to have em check anything lately) and they will take these items whole, but give sheet price and on the combine and the truck they dock us 100 lbs per tire which is probably about the average weight of each tire, and i'm not about to think about trying to remove tires like these for the slight money loss at the yard. Yes we could make more cutting them up, but at the expense of lots of time and labor and the fact that we'd have to borrow a torch set and refill the oxygen and acetylene tanks, its a lot easier to do it this way and we still had a huge profit margin after paying this guy to haul them. Don't have the time to cut 'em up, then wouldn't have any good way to load the remaining pieces.... yea there was a good bit of shearing in the combine but those things are mostly sheet. There isn't even a major frame rail on them from what I could tell it was mostly a unibody setup. The axles and engine would have been the majority of shearing on it, then we are back to the problem of having a huge demolition mess at the customer's property and having to bring in a skid steer to load the pieces, which is more time & fuel to transport and $165 per day to rent. Just not worth it to us at this point. If we owned torch set and a skid steer, maybe we'd consider cutting them up. Still have one more combine to haul and 2 corn heads and one grain head to haul (the heads go as shearing I'm told).

The grain truck weighed 8,440 lbs. Kinda surprised at its weight but the profit was still excellent. Since my 3/4 ton diesel extended cab weighs 7600# and this thing is gobs bigger, the rear end is massive, the frame is longer and taller, and it has a double stack style frame (bed has its own frame about 8" tall heavy iron) it has a double spring pack in rear (overloads are as big as main leaf pack) etc.

That's exactly the kind of stuff I've been hauling. The yard I go to pays 190 a ton on any vechicle up to a 2 ton truck. Anything 2 ton or bigger plus haybine's and combines and such are 165 a ton. My yard does the same on big truck or tractor tires 100lb dock each.

Blue that was a great find.What did the combine wiegh and what did u get per ton.Then you can figure what you would have got per ton if you cut the unit up into short iron and hauled it in.That would be how much more you could have made.Yeah the old trucks tat weight is about right.

I missed a buy last week my uncle had a buddy selling a old tandem flat bed for $1200 but he told me days later after the guy selling it had scrapped it.Said he drove it across the scales and got 1400+ out of it but he only got like 195 per ton and i can get 265 so i would have made around 500+ lol oh well cant get them all.

I have been busy this week repoing and getting junk cars have to at the shop and 2 more to pick up this week.

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That's exactly the kind of stuff I've been hauling. The yard I go to pays 190 a ton on any vechicle up to a 2 ton truck. Anything 2 ton or bigger plus haybine's and combines and such are 165 a ton. My yard does the same on big truck or tractor tires 100lb dock each.

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Wow you're getting shafted hard over there! On your big loads it would ALMOST be worth hauling them east a little.....

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Blue that was a great find.What did the combine wiegh and what did u get per ton.Then you can figure what you would have got per ton if you cut the unit up into short iron and hauled it in.That would be how much more you could have made.Yeah the old trucks tat weight is about right.

I missed a buy last week my uncle had a buddy selling a old tandem flat bed for $1200 but he told me days later after the guy selling it had scrapped it.Said he drove it across the scales and got 1400+ out of it but he only got like 195 per ton and i can get 265 so i would have made around 500+ lol oh well cant get them all.

I have been busy this week repoing and getting junk cars have to at the shop and 2 more to pick up this week.

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Combine was 8900#, sheet at the yard where we had to take it whole is 235/ton and there shearing is 275/ton, this yard is also 1/2 hr away. The yard here in town (much closer to where the combine is) pays 240 for sheet and 280 for shearing but they don't take the whole thing whole. Again its just not worth the hassle and the mess and the extra labor and costs to us. It wouldn't have been but just under $200 more if we cut it up. But then instead of having 4 hours in the combine, we'd have a good solid day in it, plus torch oxygen and acetylene refills ($70) plus renting a skid steer to load the pieces ($165) plus fuel to go get the skidsteer and haul it out ($20, but that much would be saved taking it to the yard in town instead of to the one half hr away). Then you could save the $80 we paid to have it hauled because I'd be able to haul the pieces on my trailer, but in two loads. Then, we wouldn't be able to take the tires in, so we lose the weight of the wheels and then have some huge tires to get rid of...

So I think it comes out about the same money or close enough, and with much less hassle this way :)

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So I think it comes out about the same money or close enough, and with much less hassle this way :)

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I do agree with you. I had to haul that 2.5 ton about 2 hours back to the house and then spend another day to get it cut. Sometimes you come out way ahead with accepting the lower price.

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Yeah I hear the prices you guy's in KY and IN are getting and I can just be jealous. I'm happy for you though, but with fuel prices without a tractor trailer I don't think the milage would pay.

True.... I figured if you had a very large gooseneck trailer and could stack a LOT on it..... LOL well anyway I'm sorry you're getting such horrible prices..... I've heard before that the closer you are to Pennsylvania the better steel prices will be LOL.... I'm sure someone out there is getting better than I am! At least I hope so! I've heard better prices out of Louisville before as well.....

I think right now them prices are about the same here in louisville maybe alittle more.

Man i know you dont want to tell but i would like to know what you made on that score because it was a good one thats for sure.

I took a partial load in last week in columbus oh and got 270 ton. it was a mix of sheet and #2 unprepared. at this particular place it doesn't matter if it's sheet or #1 it's all the same price. I also have 2 combines and a 2 1/2 ton truck to get hauled in hopefully this weekend I can get one of them cut down to size where I can get it loaded. The truck and 1 combine have good engines, I'll try to sell them on craigslist.

Focker,
I already gave you the numbers in reply #14, do the math and you'll have the figures LOL ;) Still don't want to say what I paid for them though that's the secret :)

lol u sneaky ass blue lol.

Guys try this if you go to the same yard talk to the buyer.Say what you have or what you think you can produce each week and you can 9 times out of 10 get more money per ton.

We did that. Actually we started to have a problem with the primary yard we were selling to. We went and talked to another yard and told them what we can bring in each week. We talked to the big cheese there, he was super nice and he set us up where we are getting very good pricing now, better than we were getting before (where we didn't like to do business anyway). Things are good and we are happy :) They are a excellent facility to work with so far!

good blue glad to hear it.what are u getting a ton for cars now.i can get from 265-280

245. This same facility normally pays 235 so we're getting a nice bonus.

dang 245 to bad you arent closer or we could hook up and get 280 a ton.

i wish i could get 280/ton for cars :(

From the center of columbus to my house is 84 miles so that would be 160 round trip for about 50 extra bucks not worth it lol.But to bad you wherent closer to me.


Hey blue i will be up there one day this week.

PM me your number or i'll PM u mine. we'll do lunch and you can checkout our operation.....

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True.... I figured if you had a very large gooseneck trailer and could stack a LOT on it..... LOL well anyway I'm sorry you're getting such horrible prices..... I've heard before that the closer you are to Pennsylvania the better steel prices will be LOL.... I'm sure someone out there is getting better than I am! At least I hope so! I've heard better prices out of Louisville before as well.....

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Sorry if this is an old thread but i would like to bust your myth. I came from Pa where scrap was 8-11 cents per pound back in 2011. I moved to Tx back in 2012 and scrap was still the same. Then the price drops and in Pa we were down to $1.50/100lbs. While Tx was holding out at $2/hundred. Its around $3/100lbs at most places now. But I did find a place with a shredder thats around $2/100 more than other yards. You might get more taking a semi load to Jersey City though.

It's no myth. Scrap steel is higher here atleast in western PA.

Last I looked, it's $0.03 /lb up here for shred .

I believe it's $9.30 per 100 lb. here is the highest price.

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I believe it's $9.30 per 100 lb. here is the highest price.

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That is the current price (210/GT) at Ben Wietsman of New Castle.

Over here in wind gap (right next to jersey) it just rose to $6/hundred. Everywhere else is $3-3.50/hundred light iron, $5-$5.50/hundrend #1. Aluminums around $.30-$.37/lbs. is it really that good over there in the west? Or is that the price the smaller yards get when they sell their stuff?

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Over here in wind gap (right next to jersey) it just rose to $6/hundred. Everywhere else is $3-3.50/hundred light iron, $5-$5.50/hundrend #1. Aluminums around $.30-$.37/lbs. is it really that good over there in the west? Or is that the price the smaller yards get when they sell their stuff?

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Go to facebook and look up Ben Wietsman of New Castle. They have a 2/14 post with prices that were effective 2/3. These are prices for anybody walking thru the door. There is a number for Steve Green if you have larger quantities.

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Go to facebook and look up Ben Wietsman of New Castle. They have a 2/14 post with prices that were effective 2/3. These are prices for anybody walking thru the door. There is a number for Steve Green if you have larger quantities.

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Thank you. Will do. Now i just have to find out where new castle is and what i can pick up out that way.

I used to buy catalytic converters in Wind Gap. New Castle is almost 5 hours away. The street price is the price, I doubt that they will give anymore money unless you have massive quantities. My ex employee sold like $25k of scrap cars in 6 months and he had to fight to get to $212 instead of $210 per gross ton.

Weitsman has other locations much closer to Wind Gap, I do believe there is one in Scranton. I would try to go those places.

Yes thank you for letting me know about them. I was just looking them up and saw they had one in scranton. Most of the stuff I haul out now is done with a little Toy Taco, but as I get more into scrapping again I may be in need of a higher Priced state wide yard to go to instead of having to haul to low paying local yards or haul stuff all the way back to wind gap if I'm working pretty far away. Now I just need to find an old m1088 or a barely street legal day cab.

Also the place you bought your cats in wind gap, was it RPM or JFR?

I used to deal with a guy named Paul, he was over in Pen Argyl.

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Over here in wind gap (right next to jersey) it just rose to $6/hundred. Everywhere else is $3-3.50/hundred light iron, $5-$5.50/hundrend #1. Aluminums around $.30-$.37/lbs. is it really that good over there in the west? Or is that the price the smaller yards get when they sell their stuff?

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I'm in South Eastern PA near Philly and Trenton.

Light iron is $6.75 a hundred.

Aluminum is $0.35 for cast, $0.44 for clip and $0.50 for extruded.

I can only wish that Weitsman would buy up one of the Trenton/ suburban Philly scrap yards.