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    the only that relly changes is the fiat money (paper money and fake coinage) gold value hasent changed in at least 2000 years. There are enough proven oil reserves with in U.S. teritory and coast lines to sustain us independently for 200 years according to as many resoc
    rces as say there isnt. not enough refinerys is the choice of federqal regulations and oil companys who want to control prices. Just my .o2

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