is it illegal not to have id in America??

**BRASSCATCHER** · 10-08-2014, 11:01 AM

Answer to ID question is no, you do not have to have ID on you. Why you wouldn't have something with you i don't know.

As far as a comment made about driving with no license and the officer being a **** if they write you a ticket, well its called unlicensed operation of a vehicle. Also keep in mind that a ticket is issued in lieu of arrest. BUT act like a horses ass and you can be brought in for any ticketable offense. Bust my balls and be sure I will bust yours back and ruin your day.

As far as the video it does not show what happened to cause the officer to ask to see id from the passenger. There was mention of the person reaching into a bag on the floor of the car when the officer approached the car causing the officer to draw his weapon. Not out of the ordinary and not against any regulations I know of to have your gun drawn during a car stop. Car stops are probably the most dangerous thing an officer can do. You are approaching a car with an unknown entity inside.

As far as what that officer did to extract the passenger, ridiculous!!!! As far as i could hear there was no mention of the person breaking any kind of law or that he was wanted for anything else. What happened there is an officer who lost his composer and will probably lose more than that once the investigation is completed.

**DakotaRog** · 10-08-2014, 11:21 AM

One of the points that the guy who refused to get out brought up was that he wasn't driving so operating a vehicle couldn't used against him. The initial stop, according to the media--taken for waht's it worth-- was a seat belt infraction by the driver. But most of the attention of the officers was on the male passenger. Suppposedly he had reached into a backpack in the back between the 2 kids to look for his id. Again, as I first said, in the field the majority of the time a person will lose by not complying with a cop. And, like I said, what was the cops plan B if this guy was totally clean but without an id?? Take him in to run fingerprints?

If you want to see some good window busting check out people willfull non-complying with border patrol check point well insde from the border. The classic one is of the guy who wouldn't even roll the window down to talk to the guards and had his a/c running on high. Can barely hear them speak from the outside. This guy was purposely trying to get a confrontation. And he did, with his side window also getting busted in after about the same amount of time elpased (13 minutes of video). I haven't heard how things have gone on after that.

Perosnally, I try to comply as soon as possible and get on my merry way. Maybe I'll tell of the time when the cop surely wanted to find me in violation beyond having a burnt out tail light at night but my lunch break is at end...

**submarinepainter** · 10-08-2014, 11:35 AM

Under the federal Immigration Reform and Control Act, new employees must present proof that they are legally authorized to work in the United States.

When One Document Is Sufficient
United States Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS, formerly the INS) periodically updates the list of documents sufficient to prove both identity and eligibility to be employed in the United States. Any one of the following documents is sufficient, on its own, to meet the requirements:

•an unexpired United States passport
•an unexpired foreign passport with an I-551 stamp
•an alien registration receipt card or permanent resident card
•an unexpired employment authorization card
•an unexpired employment authorization document, issued by USCIS, which contains a photograph, or
•an unexpired foreign passport with Form I-94 containing an endorsement of nonimmigrant status.
Documentation Required to Work in the United States | Nolo.com

For Immigrant workers (legal of course)

Photo ID Requirements for Air Travel Within the United States | USA Today
Identification Requirements for Boarding Domestic Flights | eHow
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But No by the constitution the 4th and 5th amendment