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    Wondering how many of you reinvest your scrap into stock. As probably close to 80% of mine does. I love day trading and doing quite well at it. Anyone else doing this?


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    I traded currencies for a time in the futures market. Day trading was good.. not as well as I had hoped. I used to study charts every night. Took a break from it for a bit.. but have plans to return to doing it in the future. Have a few other business ventures at the moment I invested in. Also have a money manager who takes care of IRA and such for me out of Chi-town.

    What do you trade?
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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    I don't reinvest my scrap money but I do play the penny's. In and out....it happens so fast, got caught a couple times recently but that the way is. Did however bust out a nice 8 grand profit on a two week play. Awesome! I started with $1600 one year ago and I'm still playing with it. I firmly believe these things should be taught in school with the mindset "you have profit, take it and move on". It's nuts. If I had known how to do this in high school...man....then you look back at 2009... Man I would have been a millionaire by now!







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    I bought twitter as an IPO with my scrap money..........Doin ok. The rest is in mutual funds. Thought about buying Alibaba but wasn't comfortable with China so I passed.

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    Jonny- Well the Alibaba IPO was the exception to the rule. Most IPO's get hyped hard and when someone on day 2 or 3 is on the short side (sell) when they short at its peak.. they make money even faster than the folks who bought low.. held and rode it to a high.

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    Would love to do some day trading but i'm in High school and don't know how, but i do save any silver i come across

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    All of mine goes into hard assets (gold and silver). Have about 10 ounces of gold and a couple thousand ounces of silver.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatTubaDude View Post
    Would love to do some day trading but i'm in High school and don't know how, but i do save any silver i come across
    TubaDude... Do some googling my man.. TONS of info out there on day trading. Remember this: HUGE GRAIN OF SALT. Alot of the brokers love to spout info.. just remember that generally it is not beneficial to you.. You have to know you, you have to find "an edge" you need to paper test the crap out of it and back-test it.. then and only then-- would you plunk real money down.

    You can also get demo accounts from just about every broker out there!

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    I have researched it but don't you have to be 18 to trade

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    I had a buddy I worked with many years ago who was around 18 or 19 when he got into it. He did quite well for himself.

    He only worked at the store I did for the benefits of working there. lol. Good dude. Young, hard working, smart, etc. I remember when night we're all at lunch an *****ing about life in general an he looks over at us an said.."You think you got problems? I just lost 20k" Heh.

    Like sledge said tho if dealing with brokers, A HUGE SIDE OF SALT should be taken. lol Like car dealers an lawyers, can't trust'm! You can also pick up books or learn from others who do day trading. Never know, being young you might find someone older to take you under their wing an bring you up proper.

    Good luck if you decide to try your hand at it.

    An to answer the original question...I reinvest in more product. I do other things to but thats where a lot of it goes back to.

    Sirscrapalot - If prostitution is Illegal how come Lawyers, Brokers, Car dealers, an Politicians don't get arrested? - Hmmm...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot View Post
    ."You think you got problems? I just lost 20k" Heh.
    Looks like someone didn't utilize their "Stop-Loss" very well!

    But on a smaller scale I can share with you a few experiences that will validate that! I traded the EUR/USD and USD/GBP.. London opens at 3:00 AM EST.. I was up at 2:30 and ready to trade the opening bell in London. I NEVER traded the Asian Session- whipsaw central! So I got up nightly/morningly and traded the London Market (Best Volume of the day- even topping the US session except at overlap).. There were a few nights that I went to bed thinking "Why am I going to work today? I just made $500 bucks" But some nights I went back to bed in the fetal position because I had just taken a $300 or $400 swift kick in the skull! It'll make your guts and your brain go to shat and rattle your nerves pretty quick.

    I went through many brokers.. I had a few of them play the "bad fill" game and not execute my orders- even on an order that was placed when it hit a price point- I'd get "slip" as they call it and my 10 tick trade that I was shooting for was already 5 ticks gone before I got filled- so the 10 tick profit target got dinged to 5 profit.. then of course you pay a fee for each trade.. see how easily even your broker can kill you?

    It's a DIRTY business.. I will caution anyone who wants to ever trade currencies to stay OUT of the "Forex Market" ONLY trade Currency futures- they are held to a high standard by the CME.. Forex Brokers can literally be gone overnight- and your account funding with it- its the wild west as far as regulation on the Forex Side.. Futures- you at least have a broker who must register with the CME and be liquid enough to carry trades.

    Ok back to contracting.. let some of this sink in.. and feel free to ask me anything you want. I traded for about 4 years.. and I still have the bug!

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    I am not going to give any specifics as to where my money is sitting. I have already said that I have been dumping about 5% of my income into Silver. But I do have some in other places too. No, SirQuacksALot, not in my sock drawer.

    But if you are inexperienced in the market and want to put your "guessing" to a true test. There is an App out there called "Market Millionaire". Download it and mess with it. It uses real time stock prices and starts you off with 100K, if you can get that 100K up to about 110-115 in 30 days, maybe you are ready to invest a couple grand. Just don't expect to double your money every 2-3 weeks. It isn't going to happen unless you get really lucky while making careless moves.

    I will say this much, I do have about 30% of my stocks in high gain dividend commercial real estate companies (the ones the big stores and companies lease their buildings from) and let the dividends roll back into more shares. This way if the real estate market has a spike, the value of their holdings goes up with it, and in the process, so do their stock prices. And if it dips down a little bit, they pay a monthly dividend that rolling back into it absorbs the minor drop. And with inflation going the way it is... only 1 direction it can go.

    I stay completely away from high dollar consumer manufacturers like automotive companies. (GM, Ford etc.) One bad report can cost you a large percentage of your investment, and it takes them months to recover from a 2-3 day loss. I also am staying away from financial institutions and lending companies, the more people are defaulting on loans due to the ever rising cost of living, their profits and stock prices are unstable. There are exceptions to every rule, but too many landmines to find while looking for them.

    Now this is mid to long term investing, not day trading. I don't mess around with that stuff, too much hit and miss. One day can be great, and the next you can be wearing a turd sandwich that you just got fed to the side of your face while you weren't looking.
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    Sledge sounds like you know what your doing. Im all over the place in my trades. Up 15% last week. Alibaba scared me I was all in at 68 but when it came at 92 I ran. And good thing as it is at 88 closing today.

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    I never got into Alibaba. Anyone doing the IPO good luck an would like to hear more once a little time has passed.

    When I was doing my wholesaling I noticed they like to carry a lot of counterfeit items. Then again their a Chinese based company an this is the same country that allows it's citizens to blatantly rip off others products.

    I give you..

    China's Massively Illegal World of Warcraft Theme Park - IGN

    Fake Disney Theme Park in China forced to Close | The Disney Blog

    Or the amount of counterfeit items that they ship out.. Most Counterfeit Goods Are From China - Business Insider

    Don't want to spend 400 bucks for that purse your wife wants? You can find it for 50.

    Iphone cost to much at 300? Get a knock off, exactly like the Iphone in every way, cept you know..without Apple's permisson..you can get it for cheaper.

    Etc etc etc.

    An Sledge..my friend/co-worker wasn't upset over his loss. He made it back, an I'm sure lost some again. Life of the day trader. Last I herd he was doing quite well for himself. As young as he was, if he made mistakes I can't blame him, he was doing it young, an learning at the same time. This was also quite a few years back. Hell it's been at lest 10 since we worked together. lol.

    Sirscrapalot - Wishing he could write off a 20k loss when he was 18.

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    Quote Originally Posted by F350scrapper View Post
    Sledge sounds like you know what your doing. Im all over the place in my trades. Up 15% last week. Alibaba scared me I was all in at 68 but when it came at 92 I ran. And good thing as it is at 88 closing today.
    You made a SMART move my friend. You took your profit and cashed out- and you did so BEFORE everyone else did- so that was a PERFECTLY executed trade. Remember the old saying in trading: "Bulls make money, bears make money, pigs get slaughtered" If you stay in too long and get greedy- you get the gutting!

    Well played!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot View Post
    Sirscrapalot - Wishing he could write off a 20k loss when he was 18.
    Oh but if only it were that simple my friend. IRS allows you only a $3K loss per year- the rest- you just watch it sail away- only to be gotten back with more hard work.. in some way or another!

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    Glad you told me about that app, did a couple of highend (apple google etc) and some penny just to see how it goes (marijuana related)

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    Stocks in the legal pot shops...is a good idea. lol.

    Talk about going green..

    Sirscrapalot - Hoping you get some high profits.

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    Mjna best marijuana penny stock out there

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    Anyone wanting to start investing in stocks, a good place to start is with "Share Builders". This is how I started. You can set up an account and have it automatically invest in stocks. The real difference is that you can buy "partial" shares which allows you to buy higher priced stocks without a lot of money and there is no fee.

    For example if Exxon was 100.00, I could set it up for an automatic investment and deposit 20.00 every two weeks automatically out of my checking account. I would own 20.00 of Exxon every 2 weeks. As time goes by eventually I would own a full share and my position would keep building. I would have NO fees until I sold my shares (or partial shares).

    I have my automatic investment going into 14 different stocks. While it is slow, over the years I have accumulated a good amount of stock without having a large cash investment. Its not trading, I invest in things like PG, Google, Exxon, Clorox, ect.. All big blue chip and just let it grow.

    Something some people may think is worth looking into.

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