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    I think we all agree on WW1 and WW2.

    Both were wars that needed to be ended an us in them. WW2 we dilly dallied while Hitler took Europe. Then we did get involved. From Korea till now, the jury is still out if things were necessary. Oh wait..Korea was a "police action." Vietnam was a just a straight up cluster pluck. WW2 is a mark of shame for the entire world. It should never have gone as far as it did. It's estimated 60,699,200, to 85,000,000 an change died in total during WW2. From the Holocaust, to famine an disease. Did you know the only other war to come close to those numbers, was the Mongolian Conquest wars? It's estimated that the Allies lost close to 60 MILLION to the war, Holocaust, an resulting disease an famine. Axis side..11 million. The numbers are staggering.

    The current ones, as Auminer, an Olddude point out, are all about the money. In my own so humble opinion. I'm avoiding politics here, I'm not a political person mind you, and I'd hate to see this thread shut down. I do feel that everything else has been nothing but about the money. Most wars are nothing but grand theft writ large by countries.

    Sources.. World War II Statistics | Statistic Brain How Many People Died In World War 2 | World War 2 Casualties List of wars by death toll - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    To this day, no matter how many times I've visit the monuments in DC, or the Museums and their exhibits on WW2, I'm still left with chills. I also get this while visiting the Korean War, and Vietnam monuments an exhibits. I shudder to imagine a similar war happening today. If folks haven't yet, you need to visit the Holocaust Museum, National History Museum's WW2 exhibit, and of course the monuments.

    I don't like war, and I'm no war monger, but I do think we should've gotten in WW2 earlier then we did. Hundred of thousands, if not Millions of lives could have been saved. If a Hitler type ever came around again, I would surely be for ending it before it ever reached the staggering number of deaths to soldiers an civilians. One just can't turn their back on Genocide and other atrocities that were committed during WW2.

    I will always support my troops though, whether I agree or not with the people who sent them there. Just my thoughts on things, an my .02 cents, or may 1.50. Ha ha! Sorry to veer off topic.

    " In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.



    We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. " Dwight D. Eisenhower Military-Industrial Complex Speech, Dwight D. Eisenhower, 1961

    I hate war as only a soldier who has lived it can, only as one who has seen its brutality, its futility, its stupidity. -Dwight D. Eisenhower

    Sirscrapalot - I think that people want peace so much that one of these days government had better get out of their way and let them have it. - Dwight D. Eisenhower

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