Scrappers control the Currency of the future! Hold your Copper, Silver, GOLD FINGERS - Page 2

Tcgs,
My grandfather has been telling me this for years. Its gonna happen and nobody knows when. I'm also preparing for this.

I have no guns so I don't have any ammo
I don't have any gold or silver except the ones on the circuit boards in my warehouse
I don't have freeze dried ready to eat meals stored away somewhere
I don't have any stored reserve source of gas

I do have a yellow belt in karate which I earned at the very young age of 11( purely coincidental that it was around the time of the release of The Karate Kid)
I have a pretty big jar filled with coins( no pennies) so I can survive off of vending machine food for a very long time( Bread and water is overrated)
I have a 2 gallon container half filled with gasoline mixed with some special extra engine performance for my lawn mower so I will be able to keep my lawn looking good for a month or so depending on the time of year a catastrophe happens...
I have a videotape of the 1986 World series to help me get through those times that all seem lost
I have the new Dan Brown book which is just under 500 pages so I am covered on the entertainment aspect for a few days

So if some great collapse happens I am pretty secure in the fact that I am well prepared and will survive it.
The main point of all this is that for every report of doom and gloom there are equal reports of stabilization and hope. We all work our asses off most days and because of that the large majority of us can withstand and survive another downturn....

The key is to live amongst your means.. enjoy and treat yourself to things when you can ... Think positive and realize that as a collective we have very little knowledge or ability to really forecast the extreme aspects of economics on here and remember to spay and neuter your pets

Originally Posted by Copper Head

For these events to come forth you still need more catastrophe - terrorist taking out targets - massive drought - power grid failures - getting past that , sure haveing metal stashed away as a means to get what is used to purchase goods ( cash ) will always be the secret bank account of a scrapper . lets be realistic if I had a million pounds of lead ,same for brass, copper - lets not forget 100,000 onces of silver - - - and the room to store it , I would feel like i could ride out any storm .

In reality if bad times really hit ,What 98% OF US HAVE AS A HORDING STASH will get chewed up fast ,then we are done . I guess if I had massive money to play with, I'd get a lot of - lead - copper - silver - gold - but in the mean time I have bills taking most of my money - sure any time i see $25 bucks spent as a waste i say that should of been silver .

I have the family thing every body wants and wants - whats a poor guy to do. I keep finding copper & brass, I try to sell off as little as I can, I buy silver 4 to 5 ounce a month thats the best i can do and it wont be enough , if the banks fail us

PS
why spay the dogs and cats they will help you survive . Some can hunt for you and some you can sell to Chinese restaurants
(look thats an old standing joke , so no one get bent out of shape) In china they do eat cat and dog

If you want a quick and easy way to replenish your supplies after the catastrophe the quickest way to do that is to make an appearance on The Price is Right. If you proclaim you spay and neuter your pets you have a better chance of getting chosen( I have inside information on that but cannot reveal my sources)

Originally Posted by Tcgs

China has put clamp on the buying due to over production.
This was on purpose. This is their MOMENT TO BUY!

Soon, prices will skyrocet, and you will sell again! (DONT)

I fear our DOLLAR WILL FAIL in the next two months.(NOW)

I've lost faith in our GOV.

Were going to have QE3, crazy INFLATION, and another wave of FORECLOSURES

ITS TOAST> HOUSE OF CARDS COMING DOWN>

OPTIONS? Deal in real money ie gold silver and other precious metals.

ITS ALL CHINA WILL ACCEPT TO PAY OUR DEBT CAUSE OUR DOLLAR IS WORTH SH*T AFTER THE THIRD ROUND OF PRINTING OUT OF THIN AIR!

HENCE, THE GOV WILL DEMAND ALL YOUR GOLD AND SILVER!

AHAHAHAHHAAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA

AT LEAST WERE ALL IN THE COMMODITIES MARKET AND CAN COME BY THESE METALS EASIER. USE THIS TO YOUR ADVANTAGE AND SURVIVE THE UPCOMING CRASH!

This seems to have once again turned into a survivalist conversation with a number of really smart tough guys thinking they have it all figured out as to who is going to survive.
I may have read too many books or seen too many movies on apocalyptic scenarios but the bottom line is that we scrappers don't control squat at any level in the grand scheme of things.
Life breaks down to some very simple facts.
#1 We need to breath, you can last just a few minutes without oxygen.
#2 We need water, you can live for a few days without H20.
#3 We need food, you can live a few weeks give or take without food.
So whether it is natural or political/economic catastrophe that occurs no amount of wealth or armament stored is going to save an individual for very long.
It has been proven throughout history that there is no defense large or small that can't be breached.
You can have all the gold,silver, guns and ammo and food etc etc that you have room for, but if you live in a standard structure and there are people who want what you have eventually you will lose it.
As far as speculation long term and high volume goes I think it's a waste of time and money when time is far more precious than anything , I am not religious nor am I very actively political.(I have voted every election since I was of legal age, for what it's worth)
I am more philosophical than is necessary most of the time.
My lifestyle is not like most of yours other than scrapping being part of my living and my "hoarding" so to speak is for the most part no different than anyone here.
My conclusion is that the best things I get out of life is doing anything I can to help someone who truly needs it more than me.
That and creating useful things out of junk that will be my greatest legacy..........

Originally Posted by re-cycler

this seems to have once again turned into a survivalist conversation with a number of really smart tough guys thinking they have it all figured out as to who is going to survive.
I may have read too many books or seen too many movies on apocalyptic scenarios but the bottom line is that we scrappers don't control squat at any level in the grand scheme of things.
Life breaks down to some very simple facts.
#1 we need to breath, you can last just a few minutes without oxygen.
#2 we need water, you can live for a few days without h20.
#3 we need food, you can live a few weeks give or take without food.
So whether it is natural or political/economic catastrophe that occurs no amount of wealth or armament stored is going to save an individual for very long.
It has been proven throughout history that there is no defense large or small that can't be breached.
You can have all the gold,silver, guns and ammo and food etc etc that you have room for, but if you live in a standard structure and there are people who want what you have eventually you will lose it.
As far as speculation long term and high volume goes i think it's a waste of time and money when time is far more precious than anything , i am not religious nor am i very actively political.(i have voted every election since i was of legal age, for what it's worth)
i am more philosophical than is necessary most of the time.
My lifestyle is not like most of yours other than scrapping being part of my living and my "hoarding" so to speak is for the most part no different than anyone here.
My conclusion is that the best things i get out of life is doing anything i can to help someone who truly needs it more than me.
That and creating useful things out of junk that will be my greatest legacy..........

well said re-cycler well said

The economy always goes up and down. Yes there will be a huge crash. Eventually. Maybe in one year, maybe in 5 years, maybe in 30 years, maybe 50 years. Nobody knows EXACTLY when or how bad. The trick is to ride the wave as it rises. Cash out your profit little by little before the wave crashes. And after that wave crashes, buy, buy, buy.

The future is uncertain and the end is always near...

The long term picture looks bleak for humanity with automation taking over most jobs. Can you or what you do be replaced by a robot? Nobody is talking about this out here they have two stores with no checkouts you just pick stuff up and walk out and it cost a billion dollars for the first two stores.

In 1870, half of U.S. workers were in agriculture. Today’s figure is 2 percent. True, but how about horses? Back in 1900, we had 21 million working horses. By 1960, it was 3 million. Today? Too few to count.

Are we going the way of the horse? And what about the deep economic question that today’s CEO masters of the universe aren’t asking: Who will buy the goods and services their companies produce if everyone is out of work or, at least, out of good work?

I asked this question in a recent co-authored paper (”Robots Are Us”) posted at kotlikoff.net/research. My three fellow co-authors and I modeled robots as smarter versions of us. In our paper, we showed that robots’ development will make the economy boom as their creators reap large rewards.

Originally Posted by miked

His wife is from Illinois and can't get over the fact that there is no state income tax and the roads are better than back home in Illinois.

We jokenly call Illinois "the land of 10,000 toll booths" every time I have to drive through the state ....

I actually tried staying in Tx after living in Ft. Hood for 3 years. I don't really mind the weather too much. After awhile you just get used to being hot. I was in Tn for a bit too but only with Western Express so I didnt really get to experience the better parts of town. Only the slums of Nashville. If I was able to support myself financially over the long term I'd go back to Texas. No doubt about it.