Originally Posted by
erewen
I agree with Sirscrapalot. Some talk about "karma" on the forum, but consider deliberately including extra plastic to pad the weight an acceptable business practice. Some stuff is not feasible to clean off, but padding the weight is the same mindset as putting pebbles in your aluminum cans. I want to be known by the yard as the guy who brings in quality lots, and am still trying to work a deal to buy all their computers. If I had a yard I would downgrade loads with extra plastic, but that would require a trained personnel at the scale who would be more effectively used in another spot. So instead of downgrading individual lots, everyone gets downgraded based on the actions of short-term opportunists.
Rules are made for fools who don't know how to behave otherwise.
Considering your opening statement erewen, and your closing one, that's rather stern ain't it? Specifically if they're both aimed at someone here on this thread. I've seen numbers who discussed different yards acceptable mix etc, but nobody talking about purposefully hiding pure plastic.
I will not speak for theirs, but will attempt explaining my own, about stacking the printers into the computer shells. They won't quite fit into the hard cases, only into the tops, which are open on at least 3 sides. I didn't put them all on bottom, I certainly didn't put them all on top, but mixed them with the load of cases, some on bottom, some in the middle, some on top, but None at any level were hidden.
The yard I went to has qualified personnel at all points, At least three in the scale office overlooking the scale, one of which will usually be the owner, and at least two office workers, All of which are qualified scale operators. They see down into my trailer every time I cross it, are looking into my trailer as they take my weight, and look across it again when waving for me to proceed. Out in the yard is a qualified hoist operator with a qualified rigger, both with radios, who Will let the office know of any excessive abuse in quality of merchandise.
If your yard is less prepared to deal with incoming loads, maybe you should find a better one.
I found it rather humorous that we had to dig it all out by hand, but was still Not found to be abusing their standards. Those old late 80s and early to mid 90s Dot Matrix printers were built with solid steel frames, rods, gears, and real motors, with only an outer plastic shell. They are Not like the ones of today which are plastic through and through with only a couple of metal rods and a tiny mostly plastic motor and plastic gears.
It was in no way hidden, although it was certainly mixed, nor was it loose plastic. My mix could possibly have been at that one time near maxed, but it Was Not exceeded, else I would have certainly been docked, and knew it. I was in no way attempting to slide one by them, even if I did make an effort to blend it in, from top to bottom, knowing if it was all on bottom it would be seen by the crane operator, or if all was on top seen by the office, but it was instead well mixed, so all would see it, and know it, although maybe not all at once.
I cannot speak for others who posted in this thread, but for myself, do not feel I would be deserving of such a scathing post. So, as far as your opening statement, as well as your closing statement, if they were also directed at posters on this thread, maybe you could have blended those a little better also. ; )
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