Partnership Contract - Page 4

All cities have building codes maybe not the material, but the structual soundness of it, I don't think using pallets to frame a building would be safe, and you need a foundation, or a slab to build onto, also you need to think about the roofing material. Even if you did manage to meet code with pallets If you have neighbors this is crazy because they would probably flip if you started building a pallet shack off of your driveway, also if you have neighbors they will complain about having a forklift making noise all day and such.

This does sound like a smart plan though, it has the potential to make $. Also that 2k tubes in 12 hours is ridiculous. People working for you aren't going to rip through tubes like you would trying to get done.

Lots to consider. Hope it works out.

Originally Posted by DevinThaScrapper

All cities have building codes maybe not the material, but the structual soundness of it, I don't think using pallets to frame a building would be safe, and you need a foundation, or a slab to build onto, also you need to think about the roofing material. Even if you did manage to meet code with pallets If you have neighbors this is crazy because they would probably flip if you started building a pallet shack off of your driveway, also if you have neighbors they will complain about having a forklift making noise all day and such.

This does sound like a smart plan though, it has the potential to make $. Also that 2k tubes in 12 hours is ridiculous. People working for you aren't going to rip through tubes like you would trying to get done.

Lots to consider. Hope it works out.

I appreciate your humor, really - I don't think I'll have an issue with anyone around me. One neighbor on one side of me runs a garage and fakes not speaking english whenever an officer goes over there, neighbor behind me is never home, neighbor next to me is home and neighbor across the street doesn't bother me. I've looked into how I want to build this using pallets and everything's sound. I would share if I could. Roofing will be that metal roof. I've already taken into account needing a concrete floor.

-Matt

Former Crew Supervisor Barbie Harrington at Tatooine <------I found this person on facebook. Maybe she can be part of your research. I admire what you're trying to do. CRTs are a nightmare no matter how one looks at it.

What am I trying to do?

I know more about Tatooine, but I won't bring that into the public. The DEQ knows most of it anyways. It was a huge mess, though.

What I was trying to point out was that CRTs often become large problems. Our city still takes them for free. They're overwhelmed to the point that TVs are being snowed on outside. That's in violation of DEQ rules right there.

I could see a pallet building getting expensive quickly.

I agree that 1200 CRTs a day is unrealistic for a startup company. Maybe someday, but certainly not right off the bat!

As I've said before, start small, and grow. Otherwise, how much money have you invested into something that's failed? I certainly hope it doesn't fail, but you never know in business.

If it did, the last thing I'd want is to be stuck with CRT tubes, the DEQ/EPA on my rear, and a worthless building that I've dumped money into erecting.

Of course, your DEQ may be relaxed. Ours told me that turning an old school bus into a processing center was perfectly fine. If they're sending legal notifications, they're not likely relaxed.

Ever since Tatooine, our DEQ has gotten a lot more strict. That's why I will not handle CRTs any more. No way, no how.

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I agree with Ewasted. It sounds like CRTs are your passion, not your career. I'd look into doing something profitable in recycling, and teaming up with NuLife. Basing a business on something that doesn't make money doesn't seem like a good idea to me.

Just my $0.02

matador: "I can turn a school bus into a building legally, yet they have problems with my actual buildings!?"

Originally Posted by matador

What am I trying to do? I know more about Tatooine, but I won't bring that into the public. The DEQ knows most of it anyways. It was a huge mess, though. What I was trying to point out was that CRTs often become large problems. Our city still takes them for free. They're overwhelmed to the point that TVs are being snowed on outside. That's in violation of DEQ rules right there. I could see a pallet building getting expensive quickly. I agree that 1200 CRTs a day is unrealistic for a startup company. Maybe someday, but certainly not right off the bat! As I've said before, start small, and grow. Otherwise, how much money have you invested into something that's failed? I certainly hope it doesn't fail, but you never know in business. If it did, the last thing I'd want is to be stuck with CRT tubes, the DEQ/EPA on my rear, and a worthless building that I've dumped money into erecting. Of course, your DEQ may be relaxed. Ours told me that turning an old school bus into a processing center was perfectly fine. If they're sending legal notifications, they're not likely relaxed. Ever since Tatooine, our DEQ has gotten a lot more strict. That's why I will not handle CRTs any more. No way, no how.

I agree with Ewasted. It sounds like CRTs are your passion, not your career. I'd look into doing something profitable in recycling, and teaming up with NuLife. Basing a business on something that doesn't make money doesn't seem like a good idea to me. Just my $0.02
matador: "I can turn a school bus into a building legally, yet they have problems with my actual buildings!?"

As I've said I agree you and EWasted and everyone that's made good points in here. I didn't start dismantling with the hopes of attempting to lobby for CRTs, actually started this with dismantling computers, automation, and telecom equipment. The last time I spoke with NuLife about buying the tubes from me or setting a price for a contract, I was told there was no money in it so they wouldn't be able to. It just might be that I have to find a processor that buys them.

-Matt

You might be right in which case I should give up on CRTs all together. Refocus on why I got into dismantling in the first place.

I thought I read somewhere that all E-Waste facilities in New York needed a license, but I'm not sure there.

I've never been to that area, but after Tatooine here in Wyoming, the DEQ has gotten very aggressive with CRTs. I'm glad to be done with them. The peace of mind is alone worth it.

I don't know how nice your truck is... out here we never see rust like that. But, I think it's a good starting point. My Chevrolet has it's "issues" too.

I don't know if there is any place that does HVAC recovery near you. Out here, there's a place that takes freezers/refrigerators/air conditioners for free. They don't charge for the freon removal. They don't pick up.

They use a flatbed triple axle gooseneck and a Dodge 3500 diesel. Their trailer goes up to the larger feeder yard once a month. For a town with only 10,000 people, they sure seem to get a lot of that stuff.

Originally Posted by matador

I thought I read somewhere that all E-Waste facilities in New York needed a license, but I'm not sure there.
I've never been to that area, but after Tatooine here in Wyoming, the DEQ has gotten very aggressive with CRTs. I'm glad to be done with them. The peace of mind is alone worth it. I don't know how nice your truck is... out here we never see rust like that. But, I think it's a good starting point. My Chevrolet has it's "issues" too. I don't know if there is any place that does HVAC recovery near you. Out here, there's a place that takes freezers/refrigerators/air conditioners for free. They don't charge for the freon removal. They don't pick up. They use a flatbed triple axle gooseneck and a Dodge 3500 diesel. Their trailer goes up to the larger feeder yard once a month. For a town with only 10,000 people, they sure seem to get a lot of that stuff.

Yeah really. I'm pretty sure the guy I got the truck from was a dealer but everything was legit when I went to register so that was good. Truck was made in Canada and is pushing 285,000 miles(282,800) on all original hardware(except the tires). Told the wife when the odometer gets up to 999,000 miles I was going to notch out a spot and add a digit to count the millionth mile lol. Regarding licensing: I'm not sure what Onondaga county requires for recyclers, but I'm not a recycler so I fall in that gray area(like most home based business' that aren't licensed, regulated, etc..). Good example are those gold buying places that are based out of some dudes living room. I'm not that bad as I do pickup only. Regarding HVAC: The places around me do offer HVAC recovery but they want the appliance also. I'll have to hold off on accepting anything with refrigerants till I can afford to get the pump and tank myself because letting a 3rd party recover and accept is a loss of profit. I also started a facebook petition but I don't think it'd be acceptable to post it here.

-Matt