Survival Scrapping...

Originally Posted by Sirscrapalot

I agree on having ammo, but for it to come first over EVERYTHING is kind of silly.

You can't eat your ammo.

You can't drink your ammo.

You can't be healed with ammo.

You can't shelter in ammo, unless you want to live in a house made of things meant to be shot an that explode when near heat sources.

An while your ammo could keep you warm, but..is that really practical?

Is ammo on the list sure is. So is food, water, medicine, etc.

Good luck saying you'll just hunt for food, cause if the **** hits the fan like everyone says nature won't be much better. Wildlife will die in a nuclear assault, or you know asteroids falling from space, or super volcanoes, or or..<insert end of the world theory here>.

Not trying to rain on the survival parade, I also believe in being prepared, but again..I can't eat shot gun shells an bullets.

Jus' saying..



Sirscrapalot - You can turn painful situations around through laughter. If you can find humor in anything, even poverty, you can survive it. - Bill Cosby

In times of a societal collapse, people turn feral in around 24 hours. First and foremost you need protection from those feral creatures that will kill you and your family to take what you have. There's a lot of scum out there that will find it easier to go after the perceived weak than it is to actually work for their food and supplies. Once the urban area's empty and starvation starts to set in for millions of people, I think the defense of friends and family will be first and foremost the most important thing to focus on.

I have no illusions that hunting for food won't be extremely difficult in shtf / teotwawki situation and that is certainly not what I was saying. I think my foraging and gardening skills are probably better than my hunting skills anyway. The hoard of ammo I talked about is more for defense than anything else.

Originally Posted by JustInTime

In times of a societal collapse, people turn feral in around 24 hours. First and foremost you need protection from those feral creatures that will kill you and your family to take what you have. There's a lot of scum out there that will find it easier to go after the perceived weak than it is to actually work for their food and supplies. Once the urban area's empty and starvation starts to set in for millions of people, I think the defense of friends and family will be first and foremost the most important thing to focus on.

I have no illusions that hunting for food won't be extremely difficult in shtf / teotwawki situation and that is certainly not what I was saying. I think my foraging and gardening skills are probably better than my hunting skills anyway. The hoard of ammo I talked about is more for defense than anything else.

It's problematic. Let's take something real life that's going on today as an example: Ebola has broken out in some areas. What there is of a government has instituted a quarantine where people are not allowed to leave the region.

The U.S. government would do the same thing in a similar circumstance. It's MUCH better equipped and the the Department of Homeland Security already has contingency plans in place. It's already got staging areas for refugee camps along with crematories built. They're seven steps ahead of you. By the time you figure out that it's time to "bug out" it will probably be too late.

Have you ever been caught in gridlock traffic ? Maybe a semi trailer truck jack knifed across the highway five miles up the road ? Now imagine every exit out of the city & suburban areas being like that. Your only option would be to throw a 60 lb pack on your back and hoof it out to the rural areas. What about the weakest members of your family ? Would they be able to make the trek ? How long would the be able to live out in the wild ?

See what i'm saying ? Most of the survival scenarios that people have in their heads wouldn't work in a real life situation.

Besides .... all that ammo is heavy as hell to lug around.

Ya'll can refer to Scrappah's post about living on a Island. I'm exactly like him to a degree. Fresh water, seafood, even gator! Can even get a garden going if need be.

Nice thing about my sandbar..it's been lived on since 1587, an before that(Native Americans lived all through the Sandbar an surrounding areas). So yea..one could make do fine here without access to the mainland. I don't have an urban area..I got a sandbar with houses, hardly anyone living on it. Urban worries will be on the mainland.

If anyone plans to visit have a boat, cause I'm sure the bridges would be dropped an taken out if the **** ever hit the fan. Swimming 2 miles in the sound would likely ruin your ammo, an other goodies. So save a boat an some fuel!

Your SMF secret decoder ring will help to, so I know your ok. If you got a Sirscrapalot fan club decoder ring, your good.

Sirscrapalot - Life is one big road with lots of signs. So when you riding through the ruts, don't complicate your mind. Flee from hate, mischief and jealousy. Don't bury your thoughts, put your vision to reality. Wake Up and Live! - Bob Marley

PS - Smashing(i think it was) you can come stay with us, I'd appreciate your brewing skills.