thanks for the words of encouragement brojer,,,,,,,,i will have to put in the listing they will need to bring help to load it.......i am still recovering from carpal tunnel surgery....anyhow it weighd close to 500 lbs....it is setting on my porch.....we set a few 8 foot boards on the tailgate and slid it onto my porch.....there is no way i can lift it......the bottom is very slick and it slides unbelieveably easy....

now that i think about it every time i buy big stuff on line it always says that i will need to bring tools and help with me....and that all loading is my responsibility....so maybe that wont be a big deal.....