Thanks for the welcome! I'm hanging back and just trying to soak in as much info as possible. I have been very blessed in attaining a good refinery job, yet I fear those days are numbered due to changing times and finished product being brought into our country cheaper than we can refine it here. I am looking more long term in setting up a recycling business that I would be able to eventually rely on as my sole income. Plus i have family and friends that are struggling to make ends meet after losing their "good" jobs and see a potential way to keep all of them working. I need to go back and see who was saying this in the forum, but they had posed the question: "Do you own a business or do you own a job?" What a simple yet profound question! If the poster is reading this, thank you.