Well I don't buy the cardboard from any stop,it's just like metal was in the old day,s.if you shop for buyers you can get over 110.00 a ton for cardboard,on a topical day with a driver and a helper they pick up 10-12 tons in a day,the truck and help cost 300.00 for the day you do the math,and I get more than 110.00 a ton some times it's better than scrap.