good idea Scrap J.....I jumped on the "engineer" title because I was a card carrying member of the International Union of Operating Engineers back in the day. I was a heavy equipment operator. The mechanics and oilmen and flaggers and almost everyone on site except the teamsters, were "engineers". I was a little shocked at your response mr dew, but I just chalked it up to you being over sensitive for one reason or another like we all are sometimes. Thank God you didn't take your toys and go home like Recycle. That would really be a shame. What would we do without mr dew ??!!!