yeah, i'm looking forward to tearing in to them. One of them the case it mostly metal. I'm going to make a list of the computers and stuff for vintage computer forum, there's some old IBM stuff in it, even a P4, but I haven't tested it yet. It's mostly old, but that's good for vintage too. Anybody that pays better prices for older boards is most likely to get some of these, but they seem to be getting rare, even though the newer boards are no comparison to the older stuff. I think there's just not that much of it coming in any more