Question.... Do the smaller sellers on here expect their buyers to segregate that micro on all their boards? Serious question
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Question.... Do the smaller sellers on here expect their buyers to segregate that micro on all their boards? Serious question
Urban some of the smaller sellers on here are doing millions of pounds of something else and just are getting into board grading.
Soon some of the smAller sellers will be the largest.
Not me I'm a battery guy.
We not asking you to buy and sub grade my board by assay. Were saying its like cats. More than 20 or 50 grades. Each board has a value that has been determined by somone by actually assay results.
I'm saying you can tell what a board is worth buy the sum and quality of its parts.
I'm going to bother a buyer with that my knoledge u less I have Gaylord's and a whole trailer of boards.
Urban I like ur posts. Your too the point. Don't go to a cat buyer with 3 cats and ask for 50 grade buying and 500 cat "b level" pricing.
Aaron
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Urban - I really don't like separating my boards into more and more categories. If I can, I prefer to keep all motherboards in one lot, finger boards in another, sat receiver/peripheral boards, etc. I throw a lot of boards into my low grade gaylords that are worth more because I don't want to spend the time on them...up to $1/lb value maybe. Low grade gaylords for me are a mix of every brown board, green power supplies, a lot of mid grade boards, etc. Micro managing the grades of every board is a pita, and not worth it to me...most of the time.
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This topic of what buyers get in value vs what seller gets in value goes back a long way. I remember doing this myself when easy started buying here (before ewasted). What I have learned along the way is this. There are two main factors. The first is no one know where the price of gold (or any metal) is going. This is a big variable. Second, the flow of material through the system (buyers and sellers) keeps decreasing in value. Better technologies allow manufactures the ability to use less of the values we are trying to recover. This is sadly the constant. So if gold holds steady, the value of the "mix" will decline in time. If gold goes down, board pricing will drop at a more rapid rate as a ratio to the gold drop. If gold goes up, then prices should hold to higher in the near term, depending on the amount of increase. I think this should help answer the other often ask question of "Should I hoard or sell?" as well. Buyers must protect themselves from this constant (sellers should also). While sellers dream that the variable goes to the moon (Buyers probably do as well). Sometimes the answer is not what you want to realize.
Last edited by Scrap Master J; 01-20-2014 at 01:20 PM.
The Value of P4 boards has been declining for a while now because the consumers demands CHEAPER products. So to meet that demand all of the manufactures have created low end computers to fit this need. To acheive this they have created low end mother boards with less precious metals on the connectors, pins, chips and even less copper content in the board . This is why you can buy a complete computer at Walmart for $129.00.
Some people are wasting there time buying P4 boards in 4 different catagories. This is way to confusing for the people who are selling their boards and way to time consuming for the people buying them that way. I have just one P4 catagory and have adjusted my pricing to coincide with that.
The other problem is most people think the value of boards is much more then what they are actually worth. I big contributer to this problem is Ebay where things sell for far more then what the actual value is. The other problem is people selling there boards in SMALL quantities think they can demand the same prices as someone who is selling 10,000lbs at a time.
If you Could get an assay on one P4 board and get a per pound price for that board. Now if you had 20,000lbs of the same board your assay isnt going to reflect the assay you had on that one board it could be more or less depending on who did the assay.
And for the record I have never met Ewasted but I do check his pricing from time to time and he is not unfair or cheating anybody. People have to realize that the people selling us the boards are making 10x if not more proffit then we are.
Last edited by manchvegassalvage; 01-20-2014 at 12:48 PM.
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