thanks all.
mrdg: I actually have only three of these, (hole in one) deals working. they are still in the fire. the copper deal is a monthly deal. one guy has a shed full of computer scrap and another shed full of alu windows and screens. and this one. pulling off any one of them would be a life changer for me. I would gladly go halfies on all three or any one of them. In my cercomstances pulling off any one of them would be a miricale move for me. just sayin