Debt Clock

**HipoGear** · 09-14-2016, 07:34 PM

Wind and solar can power those electric vehicles just as well as coal or nuclear enegry. Those dinosaurs are killing the planet.
I suppose that the only reason you stopped burning insulation off of wire is because you were told not to?

As far as the mess disappearing. Look at the defense budget. It should probably be renamed the "lets ensure our war profit" budget.

Prohibition was enacted by Standard Oil to ensure oil profits.
Hemp was made illegal by the same interests because Ford was manufacturing cars that ran on bio-diesel.

So yeah, this mess wouldn't exist if we could end our thirst for oil.

How much more destruction are you willing to endure?

**RLS0812** · 09-14-2016, 08:54 PM

Originally Posted by HipoGear

Wind and solar can power those electric vehicles just as well as coal or nuclear enegry.

Has anyone discussed the issues of unreliable power production, or the fact there is no way to ( energy efficiently ) store it ?
Australia has cut it's use of wind and solar due to how much damage it has caused it's grid !

In the US, if you account for day/night cycles, time of the year, clouds, weather, and humidity, you'd roughly need to cover 68% of the landmass with solar panels ... giving current wind generation statistics, you'd roughly need about 26,000,000 turbines ( each requiring about 100 acres to be cleared of trees, to efficiently operate ).

**Scrappah** · 09-15-2016, 06:16 AM

Originally Posted by HipoGear

As far as the mess disappearing. Look at the defense budget. It should probably be renamed the "lets ensure our war profit" budget.

Well ... let's stop an noodle it through for a moment. We have a large defense budget and i guess you could say that we are the number one global military superpower.

Okay ... the next question is what are we doing with our military ?

As it stands right now we're in the role of acting as the global police force. We're protecting not only ourselves but many other nations as well.

Take Australia for instance: They've done a pretty good job of keeping a balanced budget. Their government also provides a lot of services to it's citizens. It would be fair to say that they have a Socialist economic system. There really ain't no such thing as a free lunch. All of those services have to be paid for but the question is .... who is footing the bill ?

First off ... it's the citizens. Taxes are fairly high there. They take a good chunk of what you make every week.

Secondly ... They've been selling off their natural resources to the Chinese. The Chinese need those vital resources to keep their manufacturing base in production. In the real world you sometimes have to take vitally important natural resources from your neighbor by force if your survival depends on it.

Thirdly ... consider the global projection of American military power abroad. The Australian government is so heavily invested in it's social programs that it's military isn't capable of defending itself from bullies that would invade their country and take their stuff. We just re-ratified our treaty with their government to maintain AMERICAN military bases on their soil.

They're kinda riding on our dime aren't they ?

They've got a fairly balanced budget and ours is a mess.

What's the right thing to do here ?