possibly mismatched lug to wheel size, I've heard a good bump can shear the studs in such a case
on the same note, possibly loose lugs that allowed it to achieve too much play
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possibly mismatched lug to wheel size, I've heard a good bump can shear the studs in such a case
on the same note, possibly loose lugs that allowed it to achieve too much play
Last edited by Bear; 02-22-2014 at 06:54 PM.
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I had that happen on a one ton dually with sander loaded with two tons of sand/salt that I'd just had new tires put on. About 20 miles later one of the duals on the driver side went across the road. Over $800 in repairs later....Originally Posted by Patriot76
Mechanic told me it was likely from not torquing the lugs and most likely had been too tight. The (national) shop got out of the warranty because I hadn't gone back within 20 miles to have the tires "re-torqued".
People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.
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This is a picture of the west side of the power plant. The following pictures will show how the metal will be removed from the power plant from this perspective.
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This is the ramp that was built to allow access to the bottom level of the building and the staging area for extracting the metal from the building with a excavator.
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That doesn't look like much of an opening haha ; ) but, it does look like one hek of a foundation. That ramp could be utilized for future deliveries etc, long as security was under control. Is the river side of the building close enough to the bank to warrant any concerns over years of bank erosion or water damage to the substructure? What shows of it here looks like a very well made foundation.
I like those old glass block lights. Also those weep holes did their job well too. That's a great looking building there.
I thumbed through those past projects once and that old livestock sales building really stood out. They did some fine work up there Patriot
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Only too recently I became schooled on the availability of torque sticks to monitor wheel nut torque. We all know what under-tightened wheel nuts produce. Same with overtight. I've also lost wheel, tire AND hub when a spindle broke. Scared the heck out of a herd of cattle one day as the wheel went bouncing through the pasture. I need to invest in one or two of these or at least use a torque wrench.
Torque Stick
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A larger opening will be made this week that will eventually be the entrance ramp to the basement parking. The Burlington Northern railroad tracks sit between the river and this building so if any problems exist, it will affect them before us.
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Thank you Yunkman. I think I will be investing in a few when I return to my farm scrapping. Until then a new computer will be the next investment.
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I was wondering where my pictures were.
Only 2? Stop slacking Patriot! I need my picture fix.
Keep up the good job, I'm enjoying following the threads. I want to know where your hiding the coolers...you did bring one right? Mine is there in spirit!
Sirscrapalot - Entertained, Keep'm coming.
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Met the captain of the Omaha Bomb Squad today. They will be blasting several holes in the building in the basement to allow us to move metal below ground level. Good PR, cheap labor, and creating a great network.
Also met a fellow scrapper that has been doing it for 28 years. Very knowledgeable and created more contacts for this challenge. Also have a great burner on the crew that will provide another opportunity to learn. More information will be provided about these resources as time goes by. We are training several other individuals to become burners and so far, so good. Today the crew numbered nine individuals. We hope to have 20 within two weeks.
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Problems with the computer prevent speedy communications. The coolers are used to keep the contents from freezing. We keep them outside because it is only zero degrees outside and much colder inside with the concrete and brick.I was wondering where my pictures were.
Only 2? Stop slacking Patriot! I need my picture fix.
Keep up the good job, I'm enjoying following the threads. I want to know where your hiding the coolers...you did bring one right? Mine is there in spirit!
Sirscrapalot - Entertained, Keep'm coming.
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This picture is at the bottom of the ramp. It is part of the conveyor belt to move coal into the the building. The conveyor belt was covered by coal. Most of the coal was buried under ice and water that will be removed later. Coal dust is explosive and the coal is a fire hazard. More pictures will be posted later because this will be the main exit point for metal.
Last edited by Patriot76; 03-03-2014 at 07:03 PM.
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Over-torquing stretches the studs, weakens them and they can snap. Seen it a bunch of times. Also, the re-torquing thing is very very very important to get done. We have had a number of people come back with loose or missing lug nuts. Most are Furious with us. Well, every time that has happened, they had put on well over the 150km limit we tell them, (and also stamp on their invoice). we asked if they had returned for the re-torque. ".....No" Id say only 20% of our customers come back for the re torque. Most say they are "too busy" to take 2 minutes to have us re torque the nuts. A father was killed here recently when a tire came off a car and flew into his windshield, and another mother and daughter are lucky to be alive after a transport lost both rear wheels on one side and one hit the hood of their car, and absolutey crushed the front end. (We got dispatched to tow the car. It was a complete wreck) Im really dissapointed that most people think that the few mins it takes to get the re torque done is less important than someones life.I had that happen on a one ton dually with sander loaded with two tons of sand/salt that I'd just had new tires put on. About 20 miles later one of the duals on the driver side went across the road. Over $800 in repairs later....
Mechanic told me it was likely from not torquing the lugs and most likely had been too tight. The (national) shop got out of the warranty because I hadn't gone back within 20 miles to have the tires "re-torqued".
Now I know you barely even made it to the limit in your situation Mick, so im not saying you where in the wrong. Id say someone probably FORGOT to torque the lug nuts all together. We just had a cab come in after having a tranny replaced at another shop. LF wheel lug nuts where all finger tight. Imagine a tire coming off a cab on the highway with a family inside. Scary stuff.
If I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck at all...
GC Metal Recycling & Recovery
Barrie, Ontario.
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Hopefully you have a civil engineer helping with designing the blasting--you don't want to screw up any foundations that need to stay in place! Basement walls can also serve as lateral stabilization to column foundations. You aren't always sure of this unless you have a guy that understands this kind of design.
Please be cautious!
Jon.
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This is a picture of two electric motors that will be sold separately from the rest of the scrap iron. We do not have time to scrap the copper, so I received quotes for these separate. There are over 100 of these motors in the plant, but we have not taken the time to count them. We have been offered .27 cents per pound for these by a local non-ferrous dealer. These motors can be seen in post # 132 above right above the torch sparks. In addition to these small motors the facility has numerous larger motors ranging from 25 lbs. to 2 tons.
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Patriot, I absolutely love this thread. Looks like your getting a good start. IMO you can't put too many pics, I like pics. Keepem coming
expect the worst and hope for the best
cory couch
c & c recycling
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First, an apology to Sir for the lack of pictures for this post. Still to dark inside for decent pictures. The coal powered plant was remodeled into a fuel oil powered plant. That means in addition to coal fires and coal dust explosions we are now dealing with fuel in tanks and pipes. We started drilling holes in the low points to drain the combustibles but now hope to find a company that will pump the fuel for reuse. To deal with these concerns bags of baking soda, oil absorbent material, and numerous fire extinguishers are available. Each torch has it own fire extinguisher and numerous others are scattered around the building. Several retired supervisors of the plant have been brought in to identify dangerous areas as well as the Omaha Fire Department. We are looking for all resources that can help in the safety of this project.
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The members that followed the water tank project will appreciate these two picture. These are the two fuel tanks that power the turbo generators for electricity for the city of Omaha. The one on the right will be scrapped to allow street access to our facility. We need to modify the other tank to meet new guidelines.
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This is the fuel tank we need to modify to meet the sales agreement. The capacity of this tank needs to be reduced to meet federal guidelines. One thought was to scrap this tank and replace it with a smaller tank. Then it was suggested that we cut a section out and re weld the tank. In a discussion with a security guard, he suggested we just pour concrete in the bottom of the tank to reduce the capacity. We went from a very expensive plan to a simple solution because a security guard offered some common sense. Lesson - keep your ears open and never underestimate the contributions of others.
Last edited by Patriot76; 03-04-2014 at 06:03 PM.
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And the solution didn't take a half-million dollar 4-year engineering degree to figure out.
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