Fricke cops with nothing better to do! - Page 2

The police are the ones required to enforce to the laws but we need to look up the line to the city or county commissioners, mayor, etc....they are the ones who pass the regs. Wouldn't hurt to put in a call or write a letter voicing your disapproval of the ridiculous and burdensome regulations they place on business.

Let Me see if I have this correct ?
Detroit scrappers Lic. $ 50.00
Vehicle inspection by the police $ 25.00
Vehicle plate and a matching button to wear $ 20.00
Surety Bond ( Estimated Average cost ) $ 200.00 ( Guaranteed that will go up do to High Risk when They realize they have a captured market . )
Would the State of Michigan moving to Take Over Detroit to save them from there threat of Insolvency have anything to do with it ?
Detroit faces state takeover threat - Apr. 4, 2012

you need a license to keep junk out of detroits land fill, what is this world commin to when u cant scrap for extra cash with out lawmakers in your pocket.

when you were a child, they were called peace officers. Today they are called enfgorcement officers. think about it.

Lets start a thread about whether we like or dislike the police..think about it..ok i will..off topic

The link posted earlier in this thread is to our website. We are a yard on the East Side of Detroit and we constantly have police outside of our yard, and even pulling in the yard to write tickets to people without junk licenses. They've written tickets to people driving vehicles with heating and cooling logos, plumbing logos, and even REO companies.

If you get a scrap license before your court date, the ticket will definitely get thrown out. I can't speak to whether or not it will be thrown out by showing your LLC papers, but that would make sense.

Scrap yards are not required to buy material from only licensed scrapper's. The program was originally designed to give the police an easy way to question people they saw picking up stuff in alleys or curbsides, but many officer's have decided it is just easier to set up shop at the yards.

I feel ya Burly. No insult taken at all, trust me. If you come to NY, well have to meet up and have a couple bottled waters together. I would say beers but we would probably end up in a fist fight over who gets to scrap out the aluminum cans for $$$$$, lol. Be safe out there buddy, it sounds like a zoo.

Originally Posted by SikoraMetals

The link posted earlier in this thread is to our website. We are a yard on the East Side of Detroit and we constantly have police outside of our yard, and even pulling in the yard to write tickets to people without junk licenses. They've written tickets to people driving vehicles with heating and cooling logos, plumbing logos, and even REO companies.

Hate to say it, but you just talked me out of bringing my scrap metal to you. I'm just a low-volume guy in Sterling Heights and it's no huge loss for you, but the ticket would probably wipe me out, and I'm not about to pay anything to the City of Detroit for the privilege of curb shopping. Guess I'll be sticking with Admiral.

Originally Posted by ggariepy

Hate to say it, but you just talked me out of bringing my scrap metal to you. I'm just a low-volume guy in Sterling Heights and it's no huge loss for you, but the ticket would probably wipe me out, and I'm not about to pay anything to the City of Detroit for the privilege of curb shopping. Guess I'll be sticking with Admiral.

Sorry to hear that, but it's understandable. This is not just our problem, but every yard within the city limits has the same problem. It has gotten a lot better the last few months, but there is still a risk when you drive through the city of detroit with a load of scrap and no junk license.

"Constantly" might have been overstating it a bit I guess, we typically see the police once a week.

Not being able to keep up with laws works both ways. I have called the Denver Police Dept. on numerous occasions to ask about the legality of different issues (metal detecting public property, drinking alcohol in parks etc.). It seems every time I call I receive a different answer from a different person. This is frustrating, but not nearly as frustrating as looking up the laws and not being able to ascertain what they mean because it is written in jargon and legalese.

This is the problem when every municipality has the right to issue a "license". Here in Sterling Heights, MI, they've just granted an exclusive "curbside recycling" license to Waste Management, a big trash hauling corporation. The service is designed to be a subscribers-only deal; residents have to pay $60/year to have their stuff picked up once every two weeks in a Waste Management-provided 96 gallon container. Supposedly they have to have 5,000 subscribers sign up to make a go of it, and thus far they haven't gotten half that number. I'm actually keeping my fingers crossed they don't, since there is a LOT of good picking to be had around here right now.

So if in Sterling Heights, you must have a license to curb-shop, and there's only one license in the entire town. It's bullpuckey if you ask me.

Originally Posted by BurlyGuys

Okay, so just so everyone isn't still sitting with bated breath wondering what happened:

I went to my initial court date and talked to the public defender stationed in the courtroom. She laughed when I told her I was under the impression the ticket would be dismissed. She said derisively: "Well, did you DO it?". When I told her I thought the law was to stop thievery and not honest businessmen she basically told me it's all about the money.

Then I looked at the form they required me to sign which stated I was being ticketed for a misdemeanor, which carried a maximum penalty of $500.00 and up to 90 DAYS IN JAIL! Went back to the defender asking about bringing representation and she advised me to do so.

Hired my attorney. $500 EACH to defend the tickets given to me and my driver of the second truck. So now I'm out a grand.

Got court date set up for today, which I went with attorney. Turns out he was able to work a plea deal, I plead guilty and pay a fine of $150, and if I keep my nose clean for 90 days it is dismissed and expunged. Nothing on my record.

I'm not sure he was worth the money since I still had to pay, but who knows, without him I might've gone to jail.

Detroit can kiss my tailpipe.

Digusting how the "justice" system works

You freakin plead guilty and fealt like you were doing a good thing, gov still got there money and now a lawyer did too.

Stupid corrupt system

Originally Posted by landmine

Digusting how the "justice" system works

You freakin plead guilty and fealt like you were doing a good thing, gov still got there money and now a lawyer did too.

Stupid corrupt system

Lmao that is so freakin true, and sorry BRASSCATCHER you are very right there are douchebags in every profession though it just seems the nice cops are the ones that are your neighbors lol