Ok yall I dont want to shred I was thinking I would sell them whole to someone who deals with e scrap. But dosnt seem like there will be anything to be made doing that. I think I will learn to break them down and just sell the valuables to some one who deals in e scrap. They are less than 10 years old and are hp and Dell. I dont want to fix them up and resell. Thats not my thing. Thanks for the help.