The Gustavus Thread

[Hiccup]

Where have all your old photos gone?

[gustavus]

A lot of you ask how to remove chips and pins from mother boards, I put together a short video showing how I do them.

Quarter inch steel flat plate win angle iron welded on for a backstop, chisel sharpened one side only. I use my baby pneumatic hammer with a short stroke, saves on the body.

Keep in mind that I have not done this job in over two years.

[freonjoe]

Where have all your old photos gone?

Hiccup, I think that would be a long story. An amazing amount of information was lost and we all miss it.

[gustavus]

Hiccup, I think that would be a long story. An amazing amount of information was lost and we all miss it.

The story is not all that long nor complicated. Forum is geared for profit I dislike others making $$$ off my back using my posts which result in page hits loaded with ads.

Secondly I have to watch what I post god forbid should it be considered a commercially orientated post with out a subscription to the scrap room. I've had many a post deleted by either a mod or admin with out so much an explanation.

I spend considerable time taking pictures then hosting them somewhere else so that i can leach a link to this forum. Since I self host those images I own em.

[gustavus]

The guys buying your e-scrap more than likely are shipping to Sipi Metals, warehouse locations all across the US, 750 pound minimum, $1.00 lb processing fee. Not sure on turn around.

CPU's and Ram of course would have lower minimum requirements.

I do suggest if you have an interest to copy the information I have posted as my images do disappear from time to time.

[PartTimeScrapper]

Sipi is a good company to deal with on most stuff. Some buyers here on the forum pay more than sipi does though on certian things. Like ram.

[gustavus]

New ebay lesson painfully learned, if your selling an item and say no returns. I recently had a buyer ask me in three separate emails if I would take a return each time i replied i would not.

Same day the item was delivered the buyer puts in a claim item not as described, of course Paypal seized $360.00 from my account.

Of course I responded to the complaint, buyer simply escalated the dispute with out further reply, I have a nasty feeling this guy just got himself a free digital camera back with free shipping at my expense.

I'm not going to let this incident ruin my day, if ebay rules in his favour this will be my last transaction.

[freonjoe]

On the other hand Gus, you do have his address so there are forms of recourse. Just sayin'

[NWOdrudge]

Same day the item was delivered the buyer puts in a claim item not as described, of course Paypal seized $360.00 from my account.

similar situation happened with a friend of mine. he eventually was paid but took 6 months. not sure how many hoops he had to jump through to make it happen.
he had about $750 frozen by paypal.

[Scrapette]

The guys buying your e-scrap more than likely are shipping to Sipi Metals, warehouse locations all across the US, 750 pound minimum, $1.00 lb processing fee. Not sure on turn around.

CPU's and Ram of course would have lower minimum requirements.

I do suggest if you have an interest to copy the information I have posted as my images do disappear from time to time.

What can you put in the 750 pounds? Can you mix high and low grade stuff? Thanks for posting this.

[PartTimeScrapper]

why would you put lowgrade in this shipment? You have to pay $1 per pound processing fee. So anything worth less than a dollar you would be paying them to take. Same goes with metal brackets on PCI cards for example. Why pay them $1 per pound of brackets?

[gustavus]

What can you put in the 750 pounds? Can you mix high and low grade stuff? Thanks for posting this.

Your welcome Scrapette, I believe Sipi pays out on recovered copper which will offset your processing fee with money left over, the precious metals will be the icing on the cake.

PTS gave you some good advice keep your high and low grade boards separate and strip off as much ferrious metal as you can, plus any transformers and toriod coils which basically have very little copper with an iron ferrite core which is heavy and has no value.

Toroid Coil

[Scrapette]

why would you put lowgrade in this shipment? You have to pay $1 per pound processing fee. So anything worth less than a dollar you would be paying them to take. Same goes with metal brackets on PCI cards for example. Why pay them $1 per pound of brackets?

My yard counts anything that is not motherboard, pci or cd/dvd as low grade. However, other buyers have bought other boards - green on both sides- for much more. One person's low grade may not be another's . When you process you go by what it yields in metals, right? I'm not talking about brown or even half brown boards. I should have noted that.

[gustavus]

My yard counts anything that is not motherboard, pci or cd/dvd as low grade. However, other buyers have bought other boards - green on both sides- for much more. One person's low grade may not be another's . When you process you go by what it yields in metals, right? I'm not talking about brown or even half brown boards. I should have noted that.

Scrapette this is the biggest advantage of sending your material out to a large company such as Sipi who deal in the final end of the product. If you live close by a Sipi location make a day of it, bring your camera, note book then pick a few brains. Make observations of how they are receiving their inventory and ask plenty of questions these guys are here to help you become a customer.

The lower echelons are eager to move on so try and speak with a foreman who has been with the company for a few years and truly knows the business, this is how contacts are bonded.

I wish you the best of luck with this endeavour, oh and happy Valentines Day.

On a side note, most mother boards have layers of copper circuits impregnated inside the the boards, invisible to the beholder of such treasure. I’ve seen as many as 6 layers but when you look at the board you only see the top and bottom layers which are called solder layers.

Yes your correct, the value is in the metals recovered, the green boards were made during a time when the manufactures did not know the technology to scrimp on copper traces, gold plating on fingers and the amount of chips required. Chips on newer boards may actually have aluminum bonding wires inside instead of the traditional gold. So the guys buying tend to error in their favour.

If your paying a dollar a pound to have Sipi refine your boards it wont matter which colour they are, just strip off the excess materiel before shipping.

As a matter of persoanl interest, keep track of how many lbs green, brown and purple were added into the shipment.

If your serious about shipping a load, I will take some mother board round capacitors like the one below, then acid treat them checking to see if there is any silver, otherwise the foil is aluminium.

I would like to assist you in making this first load profitable, if there's no silver in these capacitors you may as well discard the un-wanted weight from the boards.

[gustavus]

Oregon requires you to fill out the following transportation certificate before transporting your scrap metal to a yard.

[gustavus]

A lot of you ask how to remove chips and pins from mother boards, I put together a short video showing how I do them.

Quarter inch steel flat plate win angle iron welded on for a backstop, chisel sharpened one side only. I use my baby pneumatic hammer with a short stroke, saves on the body.

Keep in mind that I have not done this job in over two years.

A follow up to the shearing video, the pictures should be self explanatory.

[gustavus]

This is the profile sued on my chisel.

Side shown cuts pins, backside used for shearing and removing pin sockets.

[JPete]

On a side note, most mother boards have layers of copper circuits impregnated inside the the boards, invisible to the beholder of such treasure. I’ve seen as many as 6 layers but when you look at the board you only see the top and bottom layers which are called solder layers.

I've designed 0.062" boards with up to 14 layers of 1/4 ounce copper. In the old days there was a "window" that showed each layer of copper with a number on it through the different layers.
Gus, have you sent out for an assay of your slurry? How do you inform them of what the slurry may contain?

[Scrapette]

Scrapette this is the biggest advantage of sending your material out to a large company such as Sipi who deal in the final end of the product. If you live close by a Sipi location make a day of it, bring your camera, note book then pick a few brains. Make observations of how they are receiving their inventory and ask plenty of questions these guys are here to help you become a customer.

The lower echelons are eager to move on so try and speak with a foreman who has been with the company for a few years and truly knows the business, this is how contacts are bonded.

I wish you the best of luck with this endeavour, oh and happy Valentines Day.

On a side note, most mother boards have layers of copper circuits impregnated inside the the boards, invisible to the beholder of such treasure. I’ve seen as many as 6 layers but when you look at the board you only see the top and bottom layers which are called solder layers.

Yes your correct, the value is in the metals recovered, the green boards were made during a time when the manufactures did not know the technology to scrimp on copper traces, gold plating on fingers and the amount of chips required. Chips on newer boards may actually have aluminum bonding wires inside instead of the traditional gold. So the guys buying tend to error in their favour.

If your paying a dollar a pound to have Sipi refine your boards it wont matter which colour they are, just strip off the excess materiel before shipping.

As a matter of persoanl interest, keep track of how many lbs green, brown and purple were added into the shipment.

If your serious about shipping a load, I will take some mother board round capacitors like the one below, then acid treat them checking to see if there is any silver, otherwise the foil is aluminium.

I would like to assist you in making this first load profitable, if there's no silver in these capacitors you may as well discard the un-wanted weight from the boards.

Happy Belated Valentine's Day to you, Gustavus.

As far as shipping a load to Sipi, I don't have nearly that kind of volume yet. But I hope to move somewhere later this year where I can get it.

So my current interest falls mostly in the research category of what to do when I get a decent volume.

I will keep an eye out for those capacitors however.

Thanks for all the helpful information.

[ryanw]

Scrapette this is the biggest advantage of sending your material out to a large company such as Sipi who deal in the final end of the product. If you live close by a Sipi location make a day of it, bring your camera, note book then pick a few brains. Make observations of how they are receiving their inventory and ask plenty of questions these guys are here to help you become a customer.

The lower echelons are eager to move on so try and speak with a foreman who has been with the company for a few years and truly knows the business, this is how contacts are bonded.

I wish you the best of luck with this endeavour, oh and happy Valentines Day.

On a side note, most mother boards have layers of copper circuits impregnated inside the the boards, invisible to the beholder of such treasure. I’ve seen as many as 6 layers but when you look at the board you only see the top and bottom layers which are called solder layers.

Yes your correct, the value is in the metals recovered, the green boards were made during a time when the manufactures did not know the technology to scrimp on copper traces, gold plating on fingers and the amount of chips required. Chips on newer boards may actually have aluminum bonding wires inside instead of the traditional gold. So the guys buying tend to error in their favour.

If your paying a dollar a pound to have Sipi refine your boards it wont matter which colour they are, just strip off the excess materiel before shipping.

As a matter of persoanl interest, keep track of how many lbs green, brown and purple were added into the shipment.

If your serious about shipping a load, I will take some mother board round capacitors like the one below, then acid treat them checking to see if there is any silver, otherwise the foil is aluminium.

I would like to assist you in making this first load profitable, if there's no silver in these capacitors you may as well discard the un-wanted weight from the boards.

With so many varying boards that would be in a load, is it worth it to check a sample of these? Or in other words, are there actually that many that contain silver?