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It's not quite what I wanted but for most jobs it will be alright. I figure by backing the trailer into ditch I'll be able to load and off load my small loader. The truck drivers will still be on firm ground to tug her out of the ditch or whatever low spot I'm able to spot her into.Quote:
Originally Posted by dmm2442
I'm debating if I should put barn doors on the back end or one large wide door that can be swung onto one side then latched for dumping.
Another member said something of goodwill, there's a guy on the Res that has his own backhoe and it hit me yesterday that I should hire him to load me up. Since the white goods are free for the taking this would work out especially if he is a decent operator not running around in circles burning fuel.Quote:
Originally Posted by PistoneScrapProcessing
I think that the hoe has a 4 in 1 bucket which would compact the appliances a bit.
hopefully he has a thumb on that bucket take it pick it up crush it with the front bucket and load it up or better yet call the yard and get a 80 yard container or trailer dropped off and load it up. So what if it costs you 200 to have it swapped out at least you are getting your moneys worth out of free metal. I have never heard any better word in my life then FREE. I would never ever pass up anything that is free and metal.
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Originally Posted by PistoneScrapProcessing
Containers that size would be a 4 hour trip one way, no money for the yards traveling that far and none of the yards in Winnipeg have self loaders and all I have in a dinky toy loader.
Put sides on the truck then have that back hoe load both up, I figure he should be able to do that in an hour. Hundred out looks good to me and he gets to pay his own flats.
Just a question gus how many tons do you guesstimate are there?
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Originally Posted by PistoneScrapProcessing
Tough questions you ask, its a 50/50 mix of older and newer appliances with the older stuff made from heavier sheet metal the older freezers would have fiber glass insulation which would hold moisture the newer stuff foam filled. There's 3 piles previously burned and pushed into heaps, I'm guessing 40 ton.
There is some old RR rail scattered around the site which will probably go around 30/35lb to the ft. The name embossed into the rail is not something I recognize the short piece of rail I have at home the first letter is obscured and I'm unable to make out the name. There is a possibility that there is some collector value just for the bit of rail cut out with the name of the manufacture.
As a matter of interest to to our forum members there is a market for used rail, the company I have linked to re-heats the rail billets re-rolling and forming it into new products. Unfortunately I do not have enough to worry about and mine will go as scrap http://www.jssteel.com/
So why exactly are they burning appliances? It looks to me that it just makes a mess on that beautiful landscape you have up there! I'd rather see a pile of white appliances than a burnt up metal pile that's rusty and covered in ash.
The prairie is a tinder box waiting to explode in flames, to protect our houses and outbuildings from unexpected fies most of us will do controlled burns in the early spring while the tall grass is still reasonably wet. A few years back I seen a canola crop ready for harvest which was in a field alongside the railway go up in flames the fire was started by the train passing.Quote:
Originally Posted by forwardlookguy
The landfill is not close to any buildings so they let her rip, appliances and tires all get burnt. The RM landfill is managed, they sell of the metal pile twice a year, you may recall from my earlier post that this RM is run by the dumbest people on earth they will not let the Indians use our dump.
Gus I just cut 120 estimated ton of two foot rail last week. I would never sell for reroll it usually takes six months min. to get paid for your load. I had all kinds of old Carnegie rail from back in the day I never have thought about rail enthusiasts wanting to buy it. Heck I haven't even saved a piece. I do love anything railroad related though. 40 tons of shredd should be three loads to the yard if you can get big containers and load it with a bobcat. Heck I would even stage the material and live load the truck. What are they paying for shredd right now where you haul your scrap to. Keep in mind the market is gonna tumble next month.
I could well imagine that you could satisfy every rail enthusiasts needs and flood the market with your next load of Carnegie rail, not my favorite cut I'm not fond of the weird angles you have to deal with to many torch movements. But I will say this though rail steel does cut nice and the weight sure adds up fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by PistoneScrapProcessing
I'm only getting $150.00 Canadian a ton, the US and Can dollar are so close at the moment the dollar does not make any difference its the mileage that I am from any major port or mill that make the low prices. I have to deal in volume to make any profit.
The reason I hesitate on this white goods pile even though its free is that I'm after cars for catalytic converters and the aluminum for my winter project, home foundry. After I have dealt with making my morning coffee will post a few pictures of my foundry product.
Some of things I cast from my home foundry, inside the core box I have placed patterns for a rosette, downrigger weight and scuba weight mold.
My preference of scrap aluminum is automotive, most of my patterns are counterfeit, in other words reworked items that I had purchased. If you look closely at the downrigger and scuba mold you will see the rework done using Bondo the famous autobody filler.
By casting my scrap aluminum into a product that sells, I'm averaging $19.00 a lb instead of $0.70. there's a good forum on backyard foundry for those who care to learn more on the subject.
Anyone with a sharp eye can tell that the pattens or rather the sprue is located on the wrong side of the patterns which means if there was any floaters in my molten aluminum they would have found their position on the inside of the scuba and down rigger molds were the surface area should be free of debris.
Pouring from the other side of the pattern would assure that the floaters would be on the backside were they could be easily removed with out causing any blemishes to the inside of the finished mold. Sometime even the inexperienced foundry-man gets lucky this pour tuned out perfect with out any imperfections inside to molds.
The ebayer started his backyard foundry about the same time I did and often found myself bidding against him for the same item ( pattern ) to add to our product line. http://www.ebay.com/itm/6-LB-Downrig...item2570ef162c
There you have it Foundry 101 in a nutshell.
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Trailer hoist is now operational using that spare spool valve from the cranes control bank, just need to secure the hydraulic lines.
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I have a feeling that the trailer is going to be more important than you know right now. Kinda like a 3rd hand. With dual wheels that thing has a heavy payload potential. And you have the truck to control it. Good deal,,,
Often you'll come across large nuts rather than torch the nut and bolt I just split the nut in halves then use a cold chisel to knock the halves off then drive the bolt out. The nuts is this example are in a bad location and I want to save the gear case from that old skid steer going for scrap so I decided to split instead of cut the whole bolt and thought this would be a good show n tell.
This really works well for very large nuts, saves on oxygen.
Coming in from the side of the nut you can actually torch the nut off without harming the threads on the bolt.` I use this method when saving large U-Bolts.
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Aww man Gus, I would do jobs like that reserve every day of my life man, but I understand your dilemma. It sure was pretty though!
Finally the septic tank truck is ready to travel that last mile, made this tow bar from scrap. Cut the top of the tank open letting the pieces fall inside, then filled it with more scrap.
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sweet should weigh a pretty penny
Are you going to be able to reach the new trailer with your crane?
I had always intended to use the loader it's much more mobile and faster to load that smaller stuff. Yes the crane will load the trailer by jackknifing it I'm able to reach the back end. By the time the crane has been fully extended the lifting capacity is diminished rather quickly to something like 500 lbs.Quote:
Originally Posted by freonjoe
On one of my crane trucks I had an old Hiab that I had screwed in the pressure relief valve to increase the lifting capacity which worked great for loading cars, then one day I went up to the Shuswap to help a buddy move a bunch of his toys from one property to another. Nick loaded something very heavy with the 955 track loader then on the other end I went to lift it off the truck.
While pushing on the hydraulic controls to lift, nothing appeared to be happening then pretty soon I noticed that the whole crane was now tilting forward and the trucks frame was bent. So theres good reason why you should not increase the hydraulic oil pressure above the factory setting.
Just got home from Jacks the trip went well, the other end of Mountain Rd is a fairly steep and long hill. I put the septic truck into 2nd gear to help with braking.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
The Septic truck weighed in at 15,080 lbs, with both trucks on the scale the combined weight was 34.080 lbs.
A very good payday, just for the truck not counting what you had in yours.
To keep the convoy looking tidy did not load anything onto the lead truck, after supper went out to the Ranch to clean up some of the dregs. What appeared to be one small bit of iron hidden in the tall grass turned out to be 3 engine blocks and part of an old tractor. The hay wagons will get chopped up to make a more compact load.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mechanic688
The wagon with everything loaded onto it is an old Ford truck by the looks of the differential it may be a worm gear, in which case the large crown gear would be brass, been a long time since I have run across one of these puppies. By pulling the oil plug I should be able to see if it's brass, then by inserting a finger check to see how worn it is.
Worn brass worm gears wear to a very sharp point at the crown of the tooth, when buying a used mechanical winch it pays to inspect the gear through the oil filler hole what you want is a nice wide crown across the top of the tooth.
As for winches I prefer the planetary drive types, these have a very fast line speed.
Wouldn't you just know, less than a week after buying that grain trailer from Jack I get a call to pick up a bunch of old pick up tucks, cars and some old tractors along with a grain truck.
I'm taking a load from my end tomorrow then spending the night over in Neepawa so that I can get an early start first thing Wednesday morning, sounds like it's going to be a very long day.
I'll take my camera to snap a some pictures.
This is todays load going over to the yard, I had some serious trouble loading that extended cab the crane would only lift the tuck almost to deck height then no higher. Finally backed up to it then stood her up on her tail as the truck became vertical the tail came closer to the back end of the crane truck. When I lowered it 2/3rds settled onto the deck sucking the rest on was easy.
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Gus, how many cars have you hauled in on that truck so far?
After the first week lost count, there's been days when I have hauled in 3 or 4 loads then days I hang my hat and haul nothing. On days I hang my hat it's not for lack of scrap but ambition.Quote:
Originally Posted by freonjoe
Albeit I have found something of interest to give me motivation and may step up my efforts to haul more scrap. I want to purchase a Paramotor, one of my neighbors is going to teach me how to fly a kite.
Paramotor - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Goes to show that you're never too old to try new things! Good luck with that.
All I saw when I read this was Gus figuring out how to air drop scrap to Jack's yard.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
Took that load over last night then slept on the floor at the empty Birnie house and spent most of the evening reading a book on William Durant. Went over to meet up with the chap who supposedly had a yard-full of old vehicles and tractors all he was willing to let go was an 60's Chevy half ton without an engine. I was so disgusted I never even bothered to make an offer.
The grain truck a late 50's International with a 6 cylinder which has sat under cover for the past 17 years the tires were all flat and rotted so badly they could not possibly hold air, I cant load a truck this large - towing is my only option. I figured its not worth the effort.
So I left empty handed, came home and had a nap then went out to pick up this pair, got stopped by the R.C.M.P. half mile from home. All he did was ask if the load was secure, did I own the truck and have my D.L. with me. He was very civil through out.
Todays catch.
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Down here a lot of the guys will put "not for hire" on the door then somewhere else put their name and town. Seems to keep them out of trouble when the law see's that, they know your not hiring the truck out.Quote:
So I left empty handed, came home and had a nap then went out to pick up this pair, got stopped by the R.C.M.P. half mile from home. All he did was ask if the load was secure, did I own the truck and have my D.L. with me. He was very civil through out.
Last night was a disaster, making my turn at Mr. Ribs to get to the scale noticed a house moving crew having dinner outside a large winch truck. Anyhow I had some leftover scrap to pick up in a field next to the Electrical shop right across from the scale I use. Figured that empty pick up box would be perfect so I pull into the filed then back up to the pile only I never made it the truck sank out of sight.
The field is a swamp, I now that I'm good for the night if I'm not able to catch that house moving crew to off I go, just before reaching my first intersection a car approaches and I try to flag it for a rid to Mr. Ribs. The car has two young lads they both give me the finger yelling obscenities out the open windows.
This pair of punks harassed me nearly all the way to Mr. Ribs they would circle the block then come back at me, I finally had enough and scooped up a big handful of sand from the side of the highway then let em have it. The driver got an open window full of sand, it also put and end to the harassment.
By the time I had reached Mr. Ribs the house crew had departed along with that large winch truck, the nearest tow truck capable of pulling me out is an house and a half away. Resigned to another night away from home went back to the truck, fist thing this morning spooled the cable off of my winch then hooked it to the tow hook. Got the gravel woks people over with their large loader and all we managed top do was break my cable several times. So I cut the guy loose and sent him away.
When 8:00 am rolls around I phone Jack, he comes over the look at the situation then makes a call to Pat Baker within the hour Pat pulls up with a low bed with a John Deere 200D excavator and a heavy chain. While he is unloading I drag the chain inti the field and hook up, that excavator pulled the loaded truck out with not so much as making a sweat.
I'm figuring at least $400.00 with the low bed move possibly $500.00 total, Pat only charged me $100.00, pays to have fiends. I'll certainly recommend Pat to anyone needing a contractor.
The wheel of my truck are loaded with clinging mud, so I take it for a spin to get this mud off before going onto the scale.
Cars weighed up, its over to Jacks. Unload then pull some injectors off my parts truck that Jack keeps in the corner of the yard for me. By this time the day is wearing away, I'm thinking of those two punks. I have a plan, I know the color and model of the car and managed the fist three digits of the plate.
Fifteen minutes in the High School student parking lot is all it took to find the punks car, I know know all the digits of the plate so I walk into the office telling the secretary car with plate number XXXXXX in the student parking lot has left its lights on. She thanks me and I leave, a few minutes later I'm leaning against the guys car when he comes out to check the lights. The look on his face was priceless when he spotted me, he turned an ran back onto the building realizing it was a rouse. I never said a word I was so busy having the last chuckle.
While waiting for jack to turn on his phone, I was kicking pebbles around the Electric shop parking lot when I found this beautiful moth. My Pat talked me into releasing it, so all we get is a picture. Enjoy.
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This made my night. Good thinking on your part. It's probably good that you didn't beat him to a pulp too.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
Awsome story Gus. I bet that kid was scared all day long.
I had hoped i would not see that pic, looks like $800 to me with rusted floors and bent roof. someone would have loved to have that for a rat\custom rod.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
Jack told me the price of scrap has dropped but he is going to hold his price with me for the time being, on paper this looks like a good deal but in reality Jack is working with my inventory. Since I'm hauling in at night my drop offs add up, then when I reach 3 or 4 thousand make a day trip to collect.
Anyhow no harm in letting jack think he is being a good Samaritan.
lately I've been scrapping out some old hay wagons made out of truck frames, the tires all have good inner tubes and I thought since I live near a recreational beach why not post a sign at my driveway selling beach tubes.
I live on a major route to the local beach and thought hey why not sell them as beach tubes at $20.00 a pop
The reason I quit repairing appliances was over credit, the large super stores were popping up everywhere offering major appliances to take home with no payments for twelve months. People were falling into the trap buying new rather than call in a service technician to repair a broken down appliance.
The credit crunch has now left people in a tight spot, calling in a service tech is still a tough call when the hourly rate is so high but buying a good used working appliance now makes economic sense if the family is to have food on the table..
The most common problem with a frost free refrigerator is a malfunction of the defrost timer. The timer consists of a clock motor and a plastic cam that opens and closes contacts inside the timer. The cam is programed to run the fridge in a cooling cycle for 6 hours, the thermostat will interrupt this cycle once the temperatures inside the fridge have been reached.
After 6 hours of run time the cam inside the timer has now advanced into the defrost cycle a new set of contacts are put into service supplying power to a heating coil embedded in the aluminum fins of the evaporator coil which you will find hidden behind a tin plate easily removed inside the freezer compartment the defrost cycle which lasts 20 minutes.
Both sets of contacts inside the timer are required to handle heavy amperage loads and what happens is that the contacts will weld themselves together rendering the timers purpose ineffective.
If the timer fails during a defrost cycle the refrigerator will fail to return to the run cycle, the food inside will spoil.
Should the timer fail during the run cycle we have a different problem ice will build up on the evaporator coil which also supply's cold air via a fan into the lower portion of the fridge were we keep our beer. As the evaporator coil becomes totally encased in ice the air can no longer pass over to keep that beer cold as we like it.
When the beer warms its only natural that we turn up the thermostat to a colder position, this only works so long before we consider tossing the fridge. When ever you find a fridge with the thermostat tuned as far as it will go you can bet the defrost timer has welded contacts in the run cycle. Replace the timer and you have a good fridge to sell.
Now if you plugged in that discarded fridge and it never came on chances are the timer quit in a defrost cycle, take a wide bladed screw driver then manually advance the cam on the timer 1/4 turn, if mother luck is with you the unit will run. Replace the timer and sell the fridge.
Most places that sell appliance parts will have specials on defrost timers they are a popular item, some of the newer fridges have electronic timers which are very expensive for these check out ebay. Or wait until you come across another fridge of a similar model to cannibalize.
Another common problem is water accumulating on the bottom of the fridge, this would indicate that the tube that carries the defrosted water from the evaporator coil is no longer able to reach the evaporating tray the plastic drain tube has become clogged.
Ive seen were a bag of frozen peas has spilled out, one or more of the peas found its way into the tube clogging it, usually its mold that does the dirty work of clogging. Blow the tube with compressed air then pour a bit of diluted bleach through the line to prevent a re-occurrence.
In this short video you will note the dark sludge in the evaporating tray near the compressor which supplies the heat to evaporate the defrosted water coming off of the evaporator coil above. That mold is the cause of legionnaires.
A very good explanation on how a fridge works.
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Have fun and lets get busy turning that trash into cash.
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I know that picture...Hey there stranger.Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
Did you get that solution fixed?
Hey welcome to the rubbish forum, er I mean the scrappers Forum your wealth of knowledge will be a welcome addition.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarrenRealms007
Yea I got the problem solved for those heavy beaters that the crane struggles to lift I now back up to it bumper to bumper then lift the heavy beast onto its tail which draws it nearer to the rear of my deck then when i lower the beast it settles onto the deck then I can suck the rest onto the deck using the jib.
Couple of months back I searched out the owner of a vacant farm which has some scrap kicking about, the guy was being difficult over the phone and he annoys me, eventually I asked him if he thought he was speaking with the Village idiot.
Well this afternoon I'm taking a load of scrap lumber to the landfill, the load is insecure but I'm compensating by going slow when a car comes up alongside and pulls me over we both get out of our vehicles meeting at the back of his SUV.
Fist question out of his mouth is, you live at the corner I say yes and you are. He replies Corporal Blink, knowing full well my load is insecure I ask him if he is on duty, he says no I'm a Dr. just checking your heart. Then he makes a comment about a call I made several months back with the inference to the Village idiot. Ahhh I say your Doug.
Anyhow he's coming over in an hour or so, we're going out to his vacant farm property to tag the junk, which is fairly straight forward an old truck, combine, some augers and a pallet full of lead acid battery's.
With the price of scrap metal dropping I'm not prepared to make an offer and will say so when we meet. As we all know from the news China is heading into some hard times then everyone is worried about the Euro the ripples will have far reaching tentacles like a vise on our testicles. Its going to hurt!
Now I got it, I was thinking scrap not gold.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarrenRealms007
No, it sits, I loaned the guy my books Hoke and Ammens in hard copy, they both sat undisturbed on his coffee table for three weeks so I brought them home. I'm not going to waste my time and acids with someone not willing to read.
I have cemented out the values using copper and will wait for a day when he is able to come over then melt what he has into a button so that he cant accuse me of theft, then I'm going to send him on his way.
The tin was a surprise and a little bit goes a long ways in making that nasty paste.
Thanks sir,Quote:
Originally Posted by gustavus
Not sure how much that truck weighs. My Ford built similar to that hit's the scales at around 5400 lbs with tools on it. I just pulled 2 GMC 3500's into town about 3 weeks ago. They were cought in the floods last year in Memphis. I'm going to try to sell the utility beds and scrap the rest. I pulled the oil sticks out and the engines are full of water :( One of them had a new Jasper crate engine and transmission and the other had a used engine with less then 30,000 miles on it. You want to drive down here and make a haul.... :)
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Now I got it, I was thinking scrap not gold.
No, it sits, I loaned the guy my books Hoke and Ammens in hard copy, they both sat undisturbed on his coffee table for three weeks so I brought them home. I'm not going to waste my time and acids with someone not willing to read.
I have cemented out the values using copper and will wait for a day when he is able to come over then melt what he has into a button so that he cant accuse me of theft, then I'm going to send him on his way.
The tin was a surprise and a little bit goes a long ways in making that nasty paste.
You are probably better off if he is not going to make an effort to learn anything. Hey you have been there before it is a loosing battle no matter what you do.