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    Aluminum Cans Question

    Aluminum cans :
    If they are returnable they bring .05 Cents each not crushed.
    Many times they are not returnable so you must crush them.



    Witch way brings you more money , crushing or returning ?
    Thank You in advance for the replies !


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    I could be wrong, but i do not believe all states have a .05 cent return policy. And yes i know some states do have it. Anyway, im not aware of one in texas, so they all get crushed or sold by the pound here. sold 100 pounds yesterday (well close 99.8--lol) at 55 cents a pound. But i would also like to know the answer to your question on a state by state basis. Good post!

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    Has never mattered if they were crushed or not for me in CA. Get around $2/lb because of the redemption value.

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    If you return them here most places have a machine that reads the bar code and then crushes them. You then get a receipt for the number you put in and get paid from the store where the machine is. If you bring to a beverage distributor they have to be whole and you get paid on the count. Also have the .05 redemption on water bottles as well.
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    But i would also like to know the answer to your question on a state by state basis.
    Thanks to Wiki for this info, once again Google was my friend. But to answer his question, I would say to redeem them at .05 ea because at my state price per lb. the cans come to around .02 each.

    States with container deposits

    California (5¢; for bottles 24 U.S. fl oz (710 mL) or greater, 10¢), California Beverage Container Recycling and Litter Reduction Act (AB 2020) implemented in 1987, last revision made October 2010.[5] Listed on containers as "California Redemption Value", or "CRV," or "CA Cash Refund" or similar notations. Beverages covered under the act are beer and malt beverages, distilled spirit coolers and wine coolers, and all non-alcoholic beverages except milk, 100 percent vegetable juice in containers larger than 16 ounces, and 100 percent fruit juice in containers 46 ounces or larger. Other notable beverage excluded from CRV are wine, distilled spirits, medical food and baby formula. Container types are aluminum, glass, plastic resins 1-7, bi-metals (exempts refillables).[6] The recycling rate for beverage containers of all materials in 2011 was 82%.[7]

    California imposes sales tax on the CRV if the beverage is taxable. The sales tax is not refunded to consumers upon redeeming the empty containers to a recycling center.

    Connecticut (5¢), Beverage Container Deposit and Redemption Law 1980; not charged on milk (deposit on water bottles went into effect October 1, 2009).[8] Applies to beer, carbonated soft drinks (including mineral water and soda waters) and non-carbonated beverages (excluding juice and mineral water). Beverage container types include bottles, jars, or cartons made from glass, metal, or plastic bottles.[9]
    Hawaii (5¢), Solid Waste Management Deposit Beverage Container Law (Act 176). Enacted in June 2002. In addition, Hawaii charges a nonrefundable 1¢ fee per container to fund the program. This fee increases to 1.5¢ if the redemption rate reaches 70%.[10] Containers of aluminum, bi-metal, glass, plastic (PETE and HDPE) up to 68 U.S. fl oz (2.01 L). All non-alcoholic beverage (excluding dairy), beer, malt, mixed spirits, and wine.[11] Seventy-six percent redemption rate.[12]
    Iowa (5¢ for containers that held carbonated beverages), Beverage Container Deposit Law 1978. Beverages of beer, wine coolers, wine, liquor, soda, mineral water. Bottles, cans, jars, or cartons made of glass, plastic, or metal.[13]
    Maine (5¢, also applies to fruit juice and bottled water; 15¢ for some wine bottles), Maine Returnable Beverage Container Law 1978. All potable liquids, except dairy and unprocessed cider. All glass, metal, or plastic containers 4 L (135 U.S. fl oz) or smaller.[14]
    Massachusetts (5¢ for containers that held carbonated beverages), Beverage Container Recovery Law enacted in 1982. Beverages include beer, malt, soda, mineral water in jars, cartons, bottles, or cans made of glass, metal, plastic, or a combination.[15] Seventy-two point three percent redemption rate.[16] Expansion of the Massachusetts container law was proposed in 2010 by Gov. Deval Patrick, who included the expansion in his fiscal year 2010 budget to include a nickel deposit on water, juice, energy drink and sport drink containers not covered in the original law.[17]
    Michigan (10¢ non-refillable, 10¢ refillable)—Michigan Beverage Container Act 1978. For beverages of beer, soda pop, carbonated and mineral water, wine coolers, canned cocktails. In containers made of metal, glass, paper, or plastic under 1 U.S. gal (3.79 L).[18] Ninety-seven percent redemption rate. Escheated deposits are divided as: 75% to State Cleanup and Redevelopment Trust Fund, 25% returned to retailers. Redemption limit per person, per day, is $25 in deposits.
    New York (5¢), New York State Returnable Container Law 1982. For containers under one gallon, that held carbonated beverages or water (the law was amended to include water containers on October 31, 2009)[19] Beverages include beer, malt beverages, soda, juice spritzers containing added water or sugar, wine product,[20] and bottled water without added sugar. Hard cider and wine are exempt from the deposit, whether or not they are carbonated. Container types are metal, glass, paper, plastic or a combination under 1 U.S. gal (3.79 L). Overall redemption rates as of 2007 were 66%; 76% for beer, 56.6% for soda, and 64.7% for wine product. Redemption limit is 240 containers per person, per day, but this can be circumvented by notifying the business at least 48 hours in advance, in which case the business is compelled to take any amount.[21] As of March 2010, all business which sell beverages in beverages containers for consumption off site and are part of a chain of businesses of 10 or more under common ownership are required to install 3–8 reverse vending machines on their premises depending on area of the business.[22]
    Oregon (5¢), the Oregon Bottle Bill. Beverages covered are beer, malt, soda, and bottled water. Included are bottles, cans, or jars made of glass, metal, or plastic bottles. Redemption rate is 83%. Redemption limit per person, per day is 144 containers (50 containers for stores less than 5,000 sq ft (465 m2)).[23]
    Vermont (5¢; for most liquor bottles, 15¢), Beverage Container Law 1973. Includes beer, malt, soda, mixed wine drinks, liquor. Containers included are bottles, cans, jars, or cartons composed of glass, metal, paper, plastic, or a combination.[24] Redemption rate is 85%.[25]

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    Another weird alum can place in Tucson.

    My dad went to a place that is paying .85 a pound for un crushed or crushed from the top cans. If the cans are crushed sideways they pay .40 a pound!

    I wonder if it is the bar code? If crushed from top down no one can see it... but crushed flat they may be able to.

    As stated before in the last year several new places at least 3 or 4 have started paying crazy high prices for alum cans .80 - .95 a pound. They also buy plastic bottles for prices that go as high as .40 a pound. I always thought that they were doing some kind of can / bottle scam and took them to California somehow, as Arizona is not a deposit state. But then more and more places started to pop up. Spot price of alum is .79 a pound today yet these guys always seem to be paying more than spot? When you go to one of these yards they have a stock pile of cans sitting around so then I wonder if they are just waiting for the prices to go up... Its just weird, but I don't mind getting .85 a pound for them thats like 2 and a half cents a can!

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    No deposit here, just sell them by the pound. I remember first time i heard about it,my cousin from Michigan, Had big ideas what if i get a truck load from here and take them up their. LOL never got around to that one.

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    The other yard that I used to work for would only buy aluminum cans uncrushed. The reason for that was: certain people would put a pebble in each can before they crushed them,and when we threw the bags of cans into the smelter,we were left with a little pile of gravel in the bottom of the firing chamber. Each garbage bag of cans should weigh give or take 7 lbs. If they weighed anymore we would not buy them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    Another weird alum can place in Tucson.

    My dad went to a place that is paying .85 a pound for un crushed or crushed from the top cans. If the cans are crushed sideways they pay .40 a pound!

    I wonder if it is the bar code? If crushed from top down no one can see it... but crushed flat they may be able to.

    As stated before in the last year several new places at least 3 or 4 have started paying crazy high prices for alum cans .80 - .95 a pound. They also buy plastic bottles for prices that go as high as .40 a pound. I always thought that they were doing some kind of can / bottle scam and took them to California somehow, as Arizona is not a deposit state. But then more and more places started to pop up. Spot price of alum is .79 a pound today yet these guys always seem to be paying more than spot? When you go to one of these yards they have a stock pile of cans sitting around so then I wonder if they are just waiting for the prices to go up... Its just weird, but I don't mind getting .85 a pound for them thats like 2 and a half cents a can!

    This has been discussed before in a few other threads. There are companies like Budweiser that pay a premium for cans because they have machines that allows them to recycle/reuse the cans. It seems the likely answer is that they have a direct arrangement with companies that recycle the cans on site rather than sell to a refinery, which gives them a better price.

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    Seems to me that .05ea would be alot more than .50#

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    whole cans for light scrappers 50cents a lb here and crushed for heavy amounts to save space... choose your route.

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    Ironhead said:
    "Aluminum cans :
    If they are returnable they bring .05 Cents each not crushed.
    Many times they are not returnable so you must crush them.
    Witch way brings you more money, crushing or returning ?
    Thank you in advance for the replies !"
    Returning pays MUCH better. Aluminum cans are merely worth about 1 cent a piece right now as scrap metal, but the returns on them will usually be (if I am not mistaken) 5-10 cents a piece, depending of course, on which state you reside in.
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    Hi
    Over here we get the massive price of £0.35 (55c) per Kg or £0.16 (25c) per LB

    WOW I'm going to be rich--NOT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Arkansaw View Post
    No deposit here, just sell them by the pound. I remember first time i heard about it,my cousin from Michigan, Had big ideas what if i get a truck load from here and take them up their. LOL never got around to that one.

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    25 oz cans now... Budweiser Introduces 25-Ounce Beer Can | Bar Blogger: Nightlife & Bars Blogs World's Best Party Places Reviews

    All these new can sizes quite the marketing plan!

    Alum can sizes that I know of are
    7 oz I think (maybe only bottles)
    8 oz
    10 oz
    11.3 oz new bud bow tie can
    12 oz
    16 oz
    24 oz
    25 oz new bud can
    32 oz
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    A few years ago (15?) I was in Iowa (return state) I was going to take my cans in (just a few from the trip) they wouldn't take them because I had Nebraska plates (non return state).

    When I was in Texas a few years earlier they had a machine in a parking lot that you put the cans in and it spit money back at you.

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    tha machines that take the cans wont read the labels if the cans are crushed, so you would have to take them somewhere that does it differently
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    Quote Originally Posted by KrazyK View Post
    A few years ago (15?) I was in Iowa (return state) I was going to take my cans in (just a few from the trip) they wouldn't take them because I had Nebraska plates (non return state).

    When I was in Texas a few years earlier they had a machine in a parking lot that you put the cans in and it spit money back at you.
    Thats what made me mad on a California trip we did paid the deposit ( 2 30 packs beer, 3 12 packs soda and 3 cases of btl water $8.40 worth) but could not figure how of if they would have payed me back. I left them for the hotel housekeeper
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    So I weighed some Miller Light cans

    12 oz was .5 oz
    16 oz was .5 oz
    16 oz alum btl with cap was .9 oz
    24 oz can was 1.0 oz
    32 oz can was 1.3 oz

    Just so you know! LOL


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