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    plastic oil field

    http://www.youtube.com/embed/qGGabrorRS8?rel=0

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    How much energy is used , for unity processed?

    The answer to this question ,will determine if it is feasibility.
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    Looks interesting. Seems too simple...even the suits (the pointy haired bosses) could understand the process, so I wonder why it hasn't been commercialized. Gino asks a good question. Probably energy in is greater than energy out. I also wonder which plastics it works with? I doubt that it will work with all plastics.

    But for a guy handy with tools and a bit of space, he could burn waste wood to make fuel for his diesel pickup with this setup.

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    After reading about this a while ago.
    I got a freon gas bottle & filled it up with plastic coated copper wire (no oxygen = no oxides on the copper wire) so I could try & reclaim the fumes from the pyrolised plastic.

    The fumes that came out I ran thru 6 foot of steel tubing & condensed into a metal bottle in ice.

    There were fumes, they did condense as a dirty yellow liquid over the water in the bottle.

    What wouldn't condense was the Hydrogen sulphide gas........ Stunk like rotten eggs. So I stopped it there. I did get about 40 mls of the liquid.

    That liquid cleaned up to a light bright yellow & ignited even better than petrol, with some smokey fumes.
    After about 6 months in the plastic bottle I found that about 30% of it had somehow gotten out of the bottle, so I guess its pretty thin to get thru plastic without damaging it at all.

    It looks like a great idea, once I figure out the hydrogen sulphide thing. Somehow to contain it, or neturalise it I guess.

    I have lab stuff & everything to split the volitile liquid back down into its boiling points one day.
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    There was a plastic to fuel plant in Germany that caught fire a while ago. Its on youtube I think.

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    Quote Originally Posted by eesakiwi View Post
    After reading about this a while ago.
    I got a freon gas bottle & filled it up with plastic coated copper wire (no oxygen = no oxides on the copper wire) so I could try & reclaim the fumes from the pyrolised plastic.

    The fumes that came out I ran thru 6 foot of steel tubing & condensed into a metal bottle in ice.

    There were fumes, they did condense as a dirty yellow liquid over the water in the bottle.

    What wouldn't condense was the Hydrogen sulphide gas........ Stunk like rotten eggs. So I stopped it there. I did get about 40 mls of the liquid.

    That liquid cleaned up to a light bright yellow & ignited even better than petrol, with some smokey fumes.
    After about 6 months in the plastic bottle I found that about 30% of it had somehow gotten out of the bottle, so I guess its pretty thin to get thru plastic without damaging it at all.

    It looks like a great idea, once I figure out the hydrogen sulphide thing. Somehow to contain it, or neturalise it I guess.

    I have lab stuff & everything to split the volitile liquid back down into its boiling points one day.
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    There was a plastic to fuel plant in Germany that caught fire a while ago. Its on youtube I think.
    if you could figure out a way to capture and use the hydrogen gas then the whole process would be self sustaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ginofrater View Post
    How much energy is used , for unity processed?

    The answer to this question ,will determine if it is feasibility.




    One kilogram of plastic waste produces almost a liter of oil while using about 1 kilowatt of electricity.- According to this website A Machine That Turns Plastic Back Into Oil | Motherboard

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    1 kilowatt/hour costs me 0.12 cents from my electric company.

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    i have actually tested this theory myself using a 55 gallon drum some old conduit a milk can some garden hose and a oven grate i bent the oven grate on each end to make a stand in the bottom of the drum cut a whole in the drum side so i could add wood to start it up and then put plastic in the milk can i actually used old computer monitor cases for my plastic gave me liquid that looked more like crude oil anyways i then drilled a whole in the top of the milk can lid and routed my conduit into it and sealed it up and then ran the conduit out about 8 feet then ran a garden hose on it throguh a bucket of water to condense more of the vapor then collected the liquid in a 2 liter soda bottle on a t fitting then ran the line back off to the 55 gal drum and yes the left over gas did make it somewhat self sustaining the biggest drawback is that if you get teh stuff on your hands you smell like a fried vcr for a cpl days as it soaks in really fast and sorry for the bad grammar it was never my strong suit

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