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    Your Ideas for Helping Someone to Boost their Scrapping Income

    I am guessing that when the year is done my scrapping income will be somewhere between $1,000 and $2,000. That is gross income, minus of course the cost of gas and something for my time. I do at least some scrapping perhaps five days a week. I was reading one of these threads where someone talked about making $100k a year scrapping. Perhaps that was a dealer and I have no plans on owning a scrap yard. I just want to keep it less formal and work my own hours.

    All that said, what should I be doing to try and earn, say, $25k to $50k a year from scrapping? If that is way too much, then what about earning, say, $10k to $20k a year?

    General comments like "work smart not hard" are not what I am looking for. I'd like specifics. For instance:

    "Don't waste time stripping small wire."
    "Don't waste time on ballasts."
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    What should I be doing?


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    I haven't been doing this long and I do it part-time but I have cleared over $650 in a little over 2 months, minus gas, and I haven't been that smart about recycling metals besides scrap so I could have probably made much more if i'd been smarter about it, once I did aluminum cans from my in-laws house and once I got a big load of all aluminum chairs over 240lbs...

    Find out when trash day is in neighborhoods near you and go by the day before and the day of. Twice last week I went to pickup CL scrap and I saw something (washer) on the curb at another house down the street (all the trash cans were out etc...) - I knocked on the residents door and offered to take away free and there it is... my truck was full and on the way to the yard on another street nearby I find more (fridge) but can't load it - not listed on CL but had a "free" sign on it, so I come back and get it after I take my first load to scrap. Then after it's tied down, I check my phone and see something listed less than 10 miles away from where I just picked that was listed less than 20 minutes ago - so I head that way and load it and boom, another 540lb load less than an hour.

    Look for scrap on CL near you, and if it's farther away and one item isn't worth it, if there is more than one item in that same general area - and you can get there quickly - get both and keep looking in that area etc... that's what seems to work for me but again, I am a novice. I just now have figured out how to save and cash in electric motors and am better now at cashing in and finding copper.

    Some days I don't find much but I don't just drive around either. It can get frustrating but, you'll find a rhythm. Keep in mind I am a novice but it's whats working for me for now part time.

    I forgot to add, quite a few of my neighbors know I collect unwanted appliances cause they see me - by luck someone on the next street over was giving away a bunch fo appliances form a tenant that left all their stuff and wouldn't get it (found on CL) - 1060 lb + another 360 lb a day later long story short if he knows of anyone or has any un-wanted appliances, he has my number, my next door neighbor and a few of my neighbors see me taking home washers etc.. and have inquired and they will be giving me their un-wanted stoves, refrigerators etc... and friends of neighbors as well. So - talk to people?


    I'm also looking forward to seeing what other people have to say cause i'm green and am for certain not doing something right and could be doing something different as well.
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    Hate to say it, but $1,000 over a year is nothing. Pick something to specialize in and then find out how to get it.

    Where you live can also play a role. For instance I am in a can and bottle deposit state so scrapping aluminum cans won't work here.

    There is a ton of information on here to get the wheels turning. Sometimes, you have to spend money to make money too, so keep that in mind. It all will depend on your strategy. Free stuff is great but relying on the free section of craigslist alone is not going to earn you much.
    Copper, brass, and Leather. 3 of my favorite things.

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    You may like specifics but you provide none.

    Do you do only ewaste? Do you do regular scrap? Do you take tvs? Computers? Acs? Maybe your a car guy...Maybe you just collect cans.

    So we'll go with the kind of advice you don't want... Find what ever category you fit in an read that part of the forum. You'll find tips specific to that kind of scrapping. May seem like the kind of advice you don't want, but your question/post says otherwise. If your reading the old posts you'll know the answers to things like.."Is it worth it to strip wire?"

    Here's the answer I've found is common to that an other things...DO WHAT WORKS FOR YOU. ONLY YOU CAN SAY THE VALUE OF YOUR TIME.

    What does that mean you ask?

    Only you can say the value of your time - Some of us value our time very highly an don't like making less then $30 an hour, others do this to kill time and for extra beverage money, so they have the time to spend on such things as stripping wire.

    Do what works for you - Scrapping isn't something done just one way. So find the way that works for you. What works for Auminer, Sledge, Hobo, Burly, Patriot, etc etc may not work for me, or you.

    You can think my post doesn't contain tips you need, but when you've been doing this awhile like some of us...you'll understand then it does.

    No I don't strip wire, unless I have time to kill. (To much time involved for me to do so. For me the time vs reward is just not there.)
    No I don't pluck every chip off a board to sell on ebay. ( I don't do ebay. I lack the patience)
    No I don't break printers down unless I have to. I don't like printers. ( to much time wasted for me, if I don't have to deal with them..I'm quite happy.)

    Yes, I break down most cell phones. (Not all are the same inside. )
    Yes, I break down hard drives of all kinds. ( I enjoy breaking them down, plus their pretty easy one you have the right tools an a bit of experience dealing with them)

    In closing...ask your questions that require specific answers. We don't read minds an not everything is a simple yes or no in regards to if it's worth it. Plenty of threads on here debating the whole time vs reward. I remember them all to well.

    Oh one last thing...you mentioned income an how much you should aim for. Again this is subjective. Some folks don't need to make much. I can't tell you what amount of $ you need to be aiming for. As mentioned above...find a niche. Everyone scraps normal metal. An lots more are learning to do ewaste. So find your niche, an focus on it. Know it an love it. Not only with your knowledge improve but so will your profit margin.

    Good luck.

    Listen to Hippo an the others likely to post in here. Hippo there knows what she's talking about. As do many others who will likely reply. Don't listen to me though.
    I'm just here to promote coolers, goats, an quotes. Occasionally I actually I have something helpful to add, it's rare though.

    Again...good luck to ya!

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    Quote Originally Posted by recyclersteve View Post
    I am guessing that when the year is done my scrapping income will be somewhere between $1,000 and $2,000. That is gross income, minus of course the cost of gas and something for my time. I do at least some scrapping perhaps five days a week. I was reading one of these threads where someone talked about making $100k a year scrapping. Perhaps that was a dealer and I have no plans on owning a scrap yard. I just want to keep it less formal and work my own hours.

    All that said, what should I be doing to try and earn, say, $25k to $50k a year from scrapping? If that is way too much, then what about earning, say, $10k to $20k a year?

    General comments like "work smart not hard" are not what I am looking for. I'd like specifics. For instance:

    "Don't waste time stripping small wire."
    "Don't waste time on ballasts."
    Etc.

    What should I be doing?
    Learn to recognise an opportunity, expand your options,

    Long ago on this forum I did a thread where I had purchased an old RV trailer then turned the frame and axles into a car trailer in no time added an electric winch, made enough money with that trailer to purchase a crane truck big enough that I could piggy back two junker pick ups or a pair of cars.

    One day I had acquired a old septic tank truck, cut the top of the tank off letting the pieces fall into the tank then filled the tank with scrap metal, made a tow bar to haul the truck over to Jacks behind the crane truck.

    Later this week I'm picking up another RV trailer this one is single axle and will have a different purpose, I need a trailer to haul my Allis 720 to a few of the antique tractor show an tells.

    RV trailers are notorious for dry rot, they leak, the owners get tired of looking at their bad investment and gladly give them away so that they do not have to dismantle and cart the refuse way then having to pay a tipping fee. And the RV lots that sell trailers won't take them on trade ins.

    You see plenty of used RV trailers for sale privately and the key words your find in almost every ad - roof replaced or repaired.

    You asked for an opinion, here's mine if your only bringing in a $1000.00 a year what are you doing in your spare time. When Pat and I were in BC we could make $300.00 over the weekend just picking refundable containers and we did this on top of running a scrap yard.

    Soon after I had purchased the crane truck here in Manitoba I soon had all the local scrap picked up, sold the truck and been kinds coasting between MB and BC, sail boat, Honda 1100 and a few wine and cheese tours. Still paying off the credit card.

    Ok no scrap cars locally so a game change what do I have locally. Ahh we have plenty of Black Spruce and a gypo logging outfit that buys standing timber that they cut and truck back to their mill. They leave the limbs in the woods, so these are easily harvested.

    Also the mill produces sawdust, now your probably asking yourself what in the tarnation is he going to do with limbs and sawdust. Like I mentioned earlier expand on your options.

    Hint, 1 litre = 1000 ml, divide by 5 = 200 times by $17.00 your litre of oil is worth $3,400.00 and you maybe used $30.00 worth of propane. There are other ways to market your oils, cosmetic and pharmaceutical company's purchase it by the drum.













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    The next time you see someone trimming a hedge offer to take the clippings away, the guy will probably help you load them up.

    With a very very sharp knife cut the clipping at and angle, dip the cut into a root hormone then pot into a one or two gallon pot water on a regular basis and soon you'll have cedar hedging for sale. You can do this with most soft and hard woods.

    Fruit trees have to be grafted onto a non native stump, but you can graft many different types of apples on the same stump.


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    Build some bee hives and frames in preparation of swarm collecting, out your name in with the fire department or other organisation that takes call from the panicked public on swarms.

    Each hive will give you a couple hundred pounds of honey at the end of the season, bee keeping is fun and very profitable.

    This 500 gram jar of honey sells for $12.00 times this by 200 thats a whopping $2400.00 dollars.





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    Separate your steel to get a better price. It is not worth it to break down steel to get a better price. But if you have some room just make separate piles of the steel. By me we have sheet iron, clean sheet iron, unprepared and prepared. When you have enough take in a load and add non ferrous to make the trip to the yard a better pay out. Also its ok to sell stuff as dirty, same idea don't waste time cutting up some aluminum items in order to get a clean price (pool lounge chairs for example) sell as is and be done.
    Better than the dump!

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    Pre-owned used transmission parts especially the older stuff that has become scarce due to most meeting their fate at the shredder or mobile crusher.

    Aright you have this older Dodge Ram on your trailer and don't know the year, use the vin decoder or the vinny app on your smart phone. For instance the vin I entered for the onlne decoder returned that I have a 1995 Dodge Ram.

    Next a quick trip over to the what transmission do I have site, here I find out that the 95 Ram uses the RH automatic transmission. Interesting in that the 4x4 overdrive extension housing with out internals is selling on ebay for $295.00. Internals probably net me another $100.00 and I still have the main case to strip put.

    For $30.00 worth of parts you can rebuild a Dodge overdrive the one below sold for $498.00

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Jeep-4x4-Overdrive-Housing-Only-1988-1995-A518-A500-42RH-46RH-47RH/182372464014?hash=item2a763ef58e:g:Z5IAAOSwo4pYP1k k


    For $30.00 worth of parts you can rebuild a Dodge overdrive the one below sold for $498.00

    Kinda fits yer user Nic, recyclersteve








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    I added up my receipts for the last 7 days (not counting yesterday's for me heavy load) - i've up'ed the number of days i scrap.... came out to a little over 300$ I stand to make more this month than from the time I started (March) up to this month...

    I still work off mainly free section of CL... works for me. I live in Colorado, so it may not be the same situation wherever you live.

    I agree details might help as to what you are doing now - but again, I am just a newbie but I feel with the resources I have (mid-sized truck, limited time) I am starting to really get things going.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Proton View Post
    Pre-owned used transmission parts especially the older stuff that has become scarce due to most meeting their fate at the shredder or mobile crusher.

    Aright you have this older Dodge Ram on your trailer and don't know the year, use the vin decoder or the vinny app on your smart phone. For instance the vin I entered for the onlne decoder returned that I have a 1995 Dodge Ram.

    Next a quick trip over to the what transmission do I have site, here I find out that the 95 Ram uses the RH automatic transmission. Interesting in that the 4x4 overdrive extension housing with out internals is selling on ebay for $295.00. Internals probably net me another $100.00 and I still have the main case to strip put.

    For $30.00 worth of parts you can rebuild a Dodge overdrive the one below sold for $498.00

    https://www.ebay.com/itm/Dodge-Jeep-4x4-Overdrive-Housing-Only-1988-1995-A518-A500-42RH-46RH-47RH/182372464014?hash=item2a763ef58e:g:Z5IAAOSwo4pYP1k k


    For $30.00 worth of parts you can rebuild a Dodge overdrive the one below sold for $498.00

    Kinda fits yer user Nic, recyclersteve







    Man I just hauled in a load of Transmissions/transfer cases I found in a dumpster yesterday. I get home and see an ad on CL from a guy who buys transmissions for 25-50 a piece....Oh well. Now his number is in my phone for next time i find a roll off full of transmissions! lol

    I went back today for all the axle housings and the dumpster was gone
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    Quote Originally Posted by 520 View Post
    Man I just hauled in a load of Transmissions/transfer cases I found in a dumpster yesterday. I get home and see an ad on CL from a guy who buys transmissions for 25-50 a piece....Oh well. Now his number is in my phone for next time i find a roll off full of transmissions! lol

    I went back today for all the axle housings and the dumpster was gone
    Back in the 1970's just when Japanese vehicles were becoming popular had a guy from an automotive rebuild shop tell me that he would give $100.00 for aluminium cylinder heads. I saved every head I came accross for a month and yes this required removing them form the engines.

    When I showed up at the shop he was very selective in his choices and picked two from the lot, I took a sledge hammer to them and bid my farewell never did business with the guy again.

    Your Craigslist guy offering to purchase transmissions, big difference between cases and complete then you'll also learn that he is going to be very selective in his choices when and of you do show up with a load of complete transmissions.

    Although you could have turned that truck load of aluminium trans cases into some serious money but it requires that you have to actually do some work, I operated a home foundry for a few years making fishing weigh molds.

    When all said and done I was netting $17.00 / $20.00 a pound for my scrap aluminium.

    And yes I do remember that I had committed to doing a thread on the home foundry but figured anyone really interested could find resources on the topic from one of the many forums already out there dedicated to the art.


    Average full size car aluminium rim weighs 35 pounds, this scuba mold uses a pound of aluminium the scuba mold sells on average $17.00 so each rim processed in your home foundry will net you in the neighbourhood of $595.00





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    Quote Originally Posted by recyclersteve View Post
    I am guessing that when the year is done my scrapping income will be somewhere between $1,000 and $2,000. That is gross income, minus of course the cost of gas and something for my time. I do at least some scrapping perhaps five days a week. I was reading one of these threads where someone talked about making $100k a year scrapping. Perhaps that was a dealer and I have no plans on owning a scrap yard. I just want to keep it less formal and work my own hours.

    All that said, what should I be doing to try and earn, say, $25k to $50k a year from scrapping? If that is way too much, then what about earning, say, $10k to $20k a year?



    General comments like "work smart not hard" are not what I am looking for. I'd like specifics. For instance:

    "Don't waste time stripping small wire."
    "Don't waste time on ballasts."
    Etc.

    What should I be doing?
    Have you considered ewaste?

    I'm not talking about tv's and vcr's, I'm talking about laptops, computers, battery backups, cell phones, business phone systems and computer networking equipment. This forum is loaded with all kinds of information on ewaste.

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    Let me add a little more context, as I was the original poster in this thread. I drive an SUV. I realize I could get much more in the way of appliances if I drove a truck. That isn't in the cards right now.

    Currently I collect quite a bit of insulated wire. Some like ROMEX (which I like) I strip- most I don't. I have a TNT Tooling wire stripper and have had just solo results with it thus far.

    I collect aluminum (aluminum cans and other types like MLC (mixed low copper)), stainless steel, some brass (not much) and some steel, but I try to be smart about the steel, since my vehicle won't allow me to take that much of it. I try to get steel that is fairly heavy but doesn't take up much space. A 20# piece of pipe is much better for me than a metal file cabinet.

    I collect small transformers (quite a few are about 1" square) and fans that are about 4" square. I don't mess with taking the copper out of these and accept 15 cents a pound for them.

    I will also twist and remove copper tubing from things like A/C units (not live ones, of course). I recycle computer boards and other printed circuit boards, but don't recycle glass as they don't take it here. Also, Christmas lights are so cheap (5 cents a pound the last time I checked) that I seldom do them anymore.

    I am just starting to take some things apart and am trying to figure out what I can justify doing. I've decided against opening up electrical ballasts (even w/o PCB's). I've tried a few things like a computer, ceiling fan, electrical control panel, etc. The results have been underwhelming so far. I'd like to make at least $10 an hour, but it seems like it has been more like $1-2 (or maybe $2-3) an hour.

    Hopefully that helps provide a little more context in terms of what I do. I have just decided to assume that doing a really good job scrapping requires a pretty steep learning curve.

    Thanks for all the comments thus far and in advance for anything else that is added.

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    Set a goal of how much u wanna make....$100 per day is my goal at the minimum....that equals out to roughly 36,000 per year....in this area is above average....adjust figures for your area cost of living etc

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    The knowledge you seek is not the answer to your question. You are asking for scrapping advice and really need business insight. Tips and tricks will not get you to the level you desire, but a business plan focused on investing in yourself (knowledge) and tools could. Hippogear is absolutely correct. $ 1,000 a year would not fill Sir’s cooler enough for his scrapping endeavors. At the same time that is $ 1,000 more than you would have had.

    First old threads contain many strategies for people in your situation. Take the time to do some research using the advance search feature. A stripping wire search produced 140 + threads. Second invest your profits back into tools and equipment. You might start by investing in hand tools and move up to a trailer. Continuing with the same strategy you could work your way up to a truck, larger trailer, and keep growing. Many on this forum started out earning $ 1.00 an hour and have grown to supporting their families and lifestyle scrapping. Many more were not persistent and did not invest in themselves or equipment and never found the success they hoped.

    Reading the old threads will highlight how many members started with nothing and how they built their business over time. This is the information you seek, if you are serious about scrapping.
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    ^^ Now I don't feel so bad having to replace my ratchet straps last week - very simplified example of what Patriot76 is talking about but that was actually inspiring - that is what Patriot76 just said. Tonight I am going to do some digging on these forums...

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    Speaking of older threads.... There was a quote that stuck with me threw the years. Many of the long time members on this forum might remember. It was from Olddude or ecosafe, as he will be known now. He said... "Anyone that thinks scrapping is easy money aint doin it right" Boy was he right.
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    Like everone has said, you need to find a niche and thrive to live it. In the basic sense, you are running your own business and you need to discipline yourself for that. If you keep a mindset other than that, you will always work harder than smarter.

    I do E-waste and only from business clients, My marketing hat is almost always on and I'm one of those types of guy that can talk to anyone, but I'm not a salesman in anyway. Hundreds of companies know that I save them money but they all think that free is bad, I couldn't sell icecubes to Sirscapalot if his cooler was filed with warm beverages, not saying that it would be, just using an example. But I still plug away at hundreds of companies and talk to everyone that I run across. The word gets around. I have gotten about a dozen local and semi-local banks that love the free disposal. I also do not pay for anything. If the new client wants a payout, I politly ask them to take their own product in and most of the time, I get it free.

    There is a learning curve and if you are not up to e-waste, start learning before you say no to it. Recycling in all forms is not easy in any way, it's quite "cut-throat" and you will have many bad days in it. You have to remember though, you are running a business first and then you are a scrapper. Only searching on CL for free stuff helps but really don't rely on that to always put food on the table. Market yourself as a solution to a problem.

    Just remember, you are asking the world your question, not knowing where you are from, or live now, other than the US doesn't even start to get you any answers that you can use to help your situation.
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    I would just keep doing what you are doing now and make that extra 1-2k, it is fun to breakdown stuff in your down time, you learn what is worth it to process further and what is not. As stated reinvest your profits and you could get a trailer if you wanted. If you find a outlet for specific items to specialize even better... but for now keep scrapping!

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