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    scrapping a hyndai elantra 2003

    we have a car that my dad hit a deer with and its toast i was wandering what should i take off of it before calling a person to get it cause we can get at least 200 dollars from someone and they haul it away.

    i know to take the battery leads,the fan motors,radiator which i already got,there is a motor on the left side i plan on taking that out if i can get to it if there is not a bolt on the bottom.

    i can snip some of the wires from the top from what i can see. so about how much copper can i expect to get once i strip the wires i can see? see i want to get out everything without having to go under the car cause i cant and dont wanna get squashed by the jack going down lol. im more of a play it safe person. are all electric motors clasified as #1 copper being that its gotta be bigger than a #2 pencil are they all bigger than a #2 pencil?



    the car does not run. i just want to take the things out that are worth the most like electric motors and wires anythng else?

    to give you a general idea it kinda looks similar to this

    https://www.google.com/search?q=2003...6s46MD3qFtS7M:



    the motor thing im talking about looks like this its in the lower left maybe its the alternator? are there any other electric motors on a car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    lol omg im laughing so hard=) but seriously what will i get?

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    Looks like you are getting the good easy to get items. Just make sure the guy who is paying $200 to get it wont be pissed that the stuff is gone!

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    Quote Originally Posted by hobo finds View Post
    Looks like you are getting the good easy to get items. Just make sure the guy who is paying $200 to get it wont be pissed that the stuff is gone!
    lol yeah so have you ever gotten a car? what stuff do you take off that you can acess just from the top and not having to go under the car? about how many electric motors are in a car? how many pounds of copper are in battery lead cables? they look pretty small since its a car the one i saw on youtube was from a tractor and i thought oh boy lots of copper then i looked at the small leads on the car and got sad=( should i take parts of the engine off to?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1 View Post
    lol yeah so have you ever gotten a car? what stuff do you take off that you can acess just from the top and not having to go under the car? about how many electric motors are in a car? how many pounds of copper are in battery lead cables? they look pretty small since its a car the one i saw on youtube was from a tractor and i thought oh boy lots of copper then i looked at the small leads on the car and got sad=( should i take parts of the engine off to?
    I can normally recover 3-5lbs of wire harness from cars. Wire harness goes for $.55/lbs at my yard, a bit more down the road if your in good standing with the owner and not just a drug money runner. And all together I got about $150 worth of parts off a scrap s-10 thats now my primary scrap trailer if that helps in your decision making.

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    I do not know anything about laws in Indiana, but my yards require that the gas tank be removed from the vehicle, oil drain plug pulled, and transmission plug be removed as well, requiring getting under the car or flipping it over. Before I had the equipment to flip vehicles, I had to go under a vehicle and the emergency brake is set, the transmission is put into park or gear, the jack is used only to lift the car and jack stands or blocks are used to hold the car and the jack is removed.

    It looks like there is a lot of aluminum that can be removed with a ratchet. Take a magnet to the covers and you will be surprised. If you do not want to completely separate the ferrous and non ferrous you could sell it as aluminum breakage. Breaking it down would yield you aluminum cast.

    It sounds like you are breaking down the motors and might be interested in separating the aluminum. I sell my electric motors as is, unless it is aluminum cast on the outside then it is worth my time.

    I cannot help you on the copper wiring, mine is just added to a Gaylord and sold when full.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    I do not know anything about laws in Indiana, but my yards require that the gas tank be removed from the vehicle, oil drain plug pulled, and transmission plug be removed as well, requiring getting under the car or flipping it over. Before I had the equipment to flip vehicles, I had to go under a vehicle and the emergency brake is set, the transmission is put into park or gear, the jack is used only to lift the car and jack stands or blocks are used to hold the car and the jack is removed.

    It looks like there is a lot of aluminum that can be removed with a ratchet. Take a magnet to the covers and you will be surprised. If you do not want to completely separate the ferrous and non ferrous you could sell it as aluminum breakage. Breaking it down would yield you aluminum cast.

    It sounds like you are breaking down the motors and might be interested in separating the aluminum. I sell my electric motors as is, unless it is aluminum cast on the outside then it is worth my time.

    I cannot help you on the copper wiring, mine is just added to a Gaylord and sold when full.
    thanks yeah i should take out the heater core and blower motor found that out on youtube people dont list on here all the stuff whti copper and aluminum from a car that you can just take out from the top and not having to go under the car. what kind of stuff do you get from the dashboard area?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Patriot76 View Post
    my yards require that the gas tank be removed from the vehicle, oil drain plug pulled, and transmission plug be removed as well,.
    I don't have to drain or remove anything >> MA

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    I do not take anything from the dash unless it is for reuse. I have used the seatbelts to hold the hood or truck closed.

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    Catalytic converter, battery, radiator, starter, alternator and ac compressor are what I usually grab. And not peacefully, I rip and cut and tug and whatever to get it off there. Just make sure your buyer wont dock you to bad for removing it. I buy cars all the time (I own a salvage yard) and if those goodies are gone I have to account for that and pay accordingly. YMMV.

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    If your hoping to get money having someone haul it for you you best leave everything in place. Most roll back guys around here will pay nothing for a car thats been stripped out, and your on the bottom of the list as far as who their gonna pick up today. Once a car is stripped of parts you either need to find the most reliable car buyer in your area to pay you for it, or a guy like me who comes with a toyota tacoma and sawzall, and takes it for free and then listens to all the complaints about how no one with a wrecker would take it because it was stripped. But if you do choose to strip it any way cut the Cat, if its got Aluminum rims take them, battery, alternator, ac compressor, rads, alternator, starter, window wiper motor, wire harness, if its got an aluminum engine pull that and the tranny, you can do all that except the cat without going under it but the cat could be worth $50 and takes 2 minutes to take off. If you strip the insulation of the wire harness your a fool. Takes too much time and you get nothing on the return. And like I said the car would then be considered light iron after all that so keep that in mind when no towing service wants to pay you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries View Post
    If your hoping to get money having someone haul it for you you best leave everything in place. Most roll back guys around here will pay nothing for a car thats been stripped out, and your on the bottom of the list as far as who their gonna pick up today. Once a car is stripped of parts you either need to find the most reliable car buyer in your area to pay you for it, or a guy like me who comes with a toyota tacoma and sawzall, and takes it for free and then listens to all the complaints about how no one with a wrecker would take it because it was stripped. But if you do choose to strip it any way cut the Cat, if its got Aluminum rims take them, battery, alternator, ac compressor, rads, alternator, starter, window wiper motor, wire harness, if its got an aluminum engine pull that and the tranny, you can do all that except the cat without going under it but the cat could be worth $50 and takes 2 minutes to take off. If you strip the insulation of the wire harness your a fool. Takes too much time and you get nothing on the return. And like I said the car would then be considered light iron after all that so keep that in mind when no towing service wants to pay you.
    how do you tell if its a after market cat? i dont plan on stripping it all just the easy things like the blower motor the wires from the engine area and other easily gotten things i plan on leaving the engine alone do you strip the battery cables? how much does that copper weigh? is there any more things on a car that have motor like things on it? is there any brass on a car?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1 View Post
    how do you tell if its a after market cat?
    Check the pics on the various cat recycling websites (Rockaway Recycling for example). Often after market converters have brand names on them like Magnaflow.

    i dont plan on stripping it all just the easy things like the blower motor the wires from the engine area and other easily gotten things i plan on leaving the engine alone do you strip the battery cables?
    You mean the easy and profitable things, the things most desirable at the yard. Again be prepared for the consequences described above if you try to get people to haul a car you already stripped.

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    I can provide a free quote if you have a picture of the catalytic converter. Rockaway sometimes pays half price on some converters, I wouldn't go by there pricing.


    Quote Originally Posted by JJinLV View Post
    Check the pics on the various cat recycling websites (Rockaway Recycling for example). Often after market converters have brand names on them like Magnaflow.



    You mean the easy and profitable things, the things most desirable at the yard. Again be prepared for the consequences described above if you try to get people to haul a car you already stripped.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1 View Post
    how do you tell if its a after market cat? i dont plan on stripping it all just the easy things like the blower motor the wires from the engine area and other easily gotten things i plan on leaving the engine alone do you strip the battery cables? how much does that copper weigh? is there any more things on a car that have motor like things on it? is there any brass on a car?
    Stock cats generally have a bunch of O2 sensors on them and some will be stamped with the make and part number. Aftermarket are usually welded on and dont have o2 sensors on them. They generally just look cheaper as well but sometimes its hard to tell. You need the honey comb thing in there to make it worth anything. Theres brass in the radiator ends sometimes and sometimes in the heater core. And generally no i don't strip anything. But now i got a stripper machine so i would have to see it to make that call. I generally just snip off what i can and sell as harness wire. The black plastic stuff around the wire makes handling stuff like this way harder than it needs to be and i got other things to get so spending an hour just to get anextra dollar on my battery cables aint really worth it to me.

    And any part that comes off your car the yard will deduct for generally. Even if you only pull the battery and alternator the price will go down slightly. If you have a guy hauling for you and paying you $200 he is only making about $80 on your car if the yard hes taking it to pays similar to ours. If he gets it for $200 with missing parts that he doesnt check for and the yard knocks him down just $.50/hundred now hes out roughly $20. If they find enough to kick him down to light iron hes now making about $10. That guy would also be doing all the work for you, spending his gas, beating up his truck, and spending all the expenses himself to move your car. If you were in his shoes would you want more than $10 to haul a car at your expense? This is what everyone is trying to say without actually saying it. If you want your $200 for your car have the title and keep it as complete as you can. If you strip it yeah you might be getting money for the good stuff but you will be doing alot of work and will loose way more on the car than what you'll gain if the wrecker guy actually checks your car and sees stuff missing.

    generally the only reason i take cars apart is because i only run 1/4 ton trucks and loading complete cars by hand myself is near impossible. I just did one today but we cut it into thirds and it still took 3 guys and a really steep hill to get it on the trailer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries View Post
    Stock cats generally have a bunch of O2 sensors on them and some will be stamped with the make and part number. Aftermarket are usually welded on and dont have o2 sensors on them. They generally just look cheaper as well but sometimes its hard to tell. You need the honey comb thing in there to make it worth anything. Theres brass in the radiator ends sometimes and sometimes in the heater core. And generally no i don't strip anything. But now i got a stripper machine so i would have to see it to make that call. I generally just snip off what i can and sell as harness wire. The black plastic stuff around the wire makes handling stuff like this way harder than it needs to be and i got other things to get so spending an hour just to get anextra dollar on my battery cables aint really worth it to me.

    And any part that comes off your car the yard will deduct for generally. Even if you only pull the battery and alternator the price will go down slightly. If you have a guy hauling for you and paying you $200 he is only making about $80 on your car if the yard hes taking it to pays similar to ours. If he gets it for $200 with missing parts that he doesnt check for and the yard knocks him down just $.50/hundred now hes out roughly $20. If they find enough to kick him down to light iron hes now making about $10. That guy would also be doing all the work for you, spending his gas, beating up his truck, and spending all the expenses himself to move your car. If you were in his shoes would you want more than $10 to haul a car at your expense? This is what everyone is trying to say without actually saying it. If you want your $200 for your car have the title and keep it as complete as you can. If you strip it yeah you might be getting money for the good stuff but you will be doing alot of work and will loose way more on the car than what you'll gain if the wrecker guy actually checks your car and sees stuff missing.

    generally the only reason i take cars apart is because i only run 1/4 ton trucks and loading complete cars by hand myself is near impossible. I just did one today but we cut it into thirds and it still took 3 guys and a really steep hill to get it on the trailer.
    hm i see well we dont actually have the title to it anymore and plus the radiator is already gone so nothing can be done about that. the black plastic stuff i found a car part along the roadside and it had wires in it

    i found if i just cut one end off the wires come out of the plastic tube crap easy. if your talking about the electrical tape on the wires it would be like a tv degausing cable.

    i cut them with a box cutter since i have nothing but time now if you are short on time it would be better to just take wires in as insulated but i generally dont if i can help it. if its a 2003 does that mean its got a ali heater core just like the radiator and i thought brass was only on the older cars/trucks?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1 View Post
    hm i see well we dont actually have the title to it anymore and plus the radiator is already gone so nothing can be done about that. the black plastic stuff i found a car part along the roadside and it had wires in it

    i found if i just cut one end off the wires come out of the plastic tube crap easy. if your talking about the electrical tape on the wires it would be like a tv degausing cable.

    i cut them with a box cutter since i have nothing but time now if you are short on time it would be better to just take wires in as insulated but i generally dont if i can help it. if its a 2003 does that mean its got a ali heater core just like the radiator and i thought brass was only on the older cars/trucks?
    I am unsure about what your heater core is made from since I normally deal with older cars. But if you lost your title check with your state about how hard/expensive it would be to get a new one. If you still can't get/aquire one you pretty much gotta strip everything out of it, cut it in half and if i remember correctly your the guy with no car, so i would advise getting a kobolt wheel barrow and walking the pieces to the yard yourself. But be advised the back half is 800lbs give or take, and the front with no engine about the same. With engine roughly 1,500lbs to upwards of a ton. Ive moved cars like that before and believe me its anything but easy and you'll really be tested both mentally and physically. If you cant handle that find someone like me who will cut it up and haul it for you. You wont get anything for the steel if someone like me hauls it though. So your best bet still is to ask your state about the title before you touch any more pieces on that car. Texas charged me like $10 or $50 i think to get a brown boardered copy of the title I lost before I sold one of my trucks. If you do it that way you can still make money on the car not having to do anything more than call a number and possibly fill out some papers. If you strip it with out having the means to do so I can garuntee you that your gonna be sorry.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ScrapmanIndustries View Post

    And any part that comes off your car the yard will deduct for generally. Even if you only pull the battery and alternator the price will go down slightly. If you have a guy hauling for you and paying you $200 he is only making about $80 on your car if the yard hes taking it to pays similar to ours. If he gets it for $200 with missing parts that he doesnt check for and the yard knocks him down just $.50/hundred now hes out roughly $20. If they find enough to kick him down to light iron hes now making about $10. That guy would also be doing all the work for you, spending his gas, beating up his truck, and spending all the expenses himself to move your car. If you were in his shoes would you want more than $10 to haul a car at your expense? This is what everyone is trying to say without actually saying it. If you want your $200 for your car have the title and keep it as complete as you can. If you strip it yeah you might be getting money for the good stuff but you will be doing alot of work and will loose way more on the car than what you'll gain if the wrecker guy actually checks your car and sees stuff missing.
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    I bring my Cars to the Walter Zion yard
    They do NOT deduct >> Right now getting $100.00 per ton (2000#) or .05 a pound
    I sell the battery to a guy that comes to me on an as needed basis and pays more then I could get if I haul them in myself >> More power to him and less work for me
    Alternator, starter, AC Compressor and other cores (ECM's, calipers and so on) are pulled and go to RAS In Coventry RI
    All harness wire I can get in 10 minutes is pulled and sold separate to Zions for .50 a pound current price
    Aluminum radiators, ac units are pulled and sold separate to Zions
    Aluminum rims are pulled and sold separate to Zions
    Good tires sold to local tire shop >> REALLY good tires sold with craigs help
    And of course the Cats are pulled and saved (as long as the price continues to go up) for my retirement fund

    I am currently paying $100.00 for average size cars and another $50.00 if they have aluminum rims
    More work for me means less money for them >> No keys or no title pays less

    Here in MA no title needed if the car is over 10 years old

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