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    Silver wire

    How can one tell the difference between silver wire and aluminum wire?

    I recently processed a big old old auto diagnostic machine which had some insulated copper wire and some insulated silver COLORED wire. The technology in the machine would date it to the 70's? There were several circuit boards with silver fingers at the plug in sites.

    On a side note - I believe some circuit boards have some of the wet axil silver tantalum, umm, things. (Can't remember the name at the moment.)



    I'll try to remember to take some pictures of the boards and post on this thread.


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    While on the subject..

    I have found either a square of foil or a square of metal mesh under some northbridge heatsinks lately.

    Its soft and thin, I expect its Ali not Silver, but why use it as part of a heatsink if the actual heatsink is Ali anyway?

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    Put hydrogen peroxide on the metal, look for the color of the oxidation and/or bubbles

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    Most insulated wire that appears to be silver is tinned copper wire. Why tinn copper wire because it makes it ready to solder. This makes the manufacturing process quicker/easier.

    Remove some of the insulation an scrape the wire with a sharp knife. It should reveal copper underneath(it tends to appear a little pinkish). Or just cut the end and look closely at it and see there is the red copper inside. Mike
    "Profit begins when you buy NOT when you sell." {quote passed down to me from a wise man}

    Now go beat the copper out of something, Miked

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    Quote Originally Posted by miked View Post
    Most insulated wire that appears to be silver is tinned copper wire. Why tinn copper wire because it makes it ready to solder. This makes the manufacturing process quicker/easier.

    Remove some of the insulation an scrape the wire with a sharp knife. It should reveal copper underneath(it tends to appear a little pinkish). Or just cut the end and look closely at it and see there is the red copper inside. Mike
    I will try that but I'm wondering as some wires are insulated copper, why also use tinned copper on the same machine?

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    Quote Originally Posted by nutpie View Post
    I will try that but I'm wondering as some wires are insulated copper, why also use tinned copper on the same machine?
    At higher temperatures, the corrosion resistance of copper declines, making a tin coating valuable for protecting the wire in this state.

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    I expect it has to do with purchasing department. I used to sell to manufactures, not wire but the same thing happens. Buying is done on availability, price, specific requiremens of the manufacturing process.

    If you need 18 ga.tinned insulated wire for one product and 18 ga. for another but it does not need to be tinned, buy tinned. This can make sense because you don't need to keep two types of 18 ga. in inventory and often the cost difference will be little. Also it simplyfies the process on the factory floor which can cut down on errors. Mike

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    I see the tinned copper used a lot in salt water marine applications. It's a pretty corrosive environment.

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    So I stripped some of the silver colored wire and did the hydrogen peroxide test. Low and behold, little oxygen bubbles formed on the wire, leading me to believe the wire is possibly Ag, silver. I only tested a small sample so I will strip a larger sample and check again.

    I have a 1 ounce silver bar I will put into H2O2 and watch the reaction to compare against H2O2 reaction with this wire. Depending on more firm results, I will look for all the other wire that came off this machine and test. Although it may have been scrapped out by now..

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    Personally, I can't see any reason why they would use silver or silver plated wire on an auto diagnostic machine. I do know they are used in some higher end speakers for better sound quality, but that's about the only application I know of.

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    The machine I scrapped was an oldie. It was big, probably 6 feet tall, weighing 300 lbs or so with many different functions. Im not sure why silver would be used in this machine but I am sure this was a very expensive machine in it's day. I kinda wish I had taken pictures of the machine when it was whole.


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