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    As a scrapper, one of the best opportunities to make money out there is to sell parts for more than scrap value. From the questions that I've answered and the lots that I've processed, I have some tips on maximizing your "More than Scrap" items:
    *Full Disclaimer- I am a More than Scrap buyer. Some of these tips may not apply to all buyers. Warning: What you are about to read should only be accomplished by trained professionals. Injury or death may result from underinflation or overloading. Do not attempt at home! (Just kidding about the last parts!)



    1. Common machines need parts. For example, there are millions of Dell OptiPlex computers in circulation. If you have some, odds are that there will be parts that can be reused.

    2. Factor in your time. Time is money. It may be worth it to take a little less per unit, if you save a lot of time. Also look into selling systems complete if your buyer will pay for them as a whole. You don't have any breakdown time, and the components will be properly cradled to minimize the risk of damage.

    3. Consistancy Counts. If you have a lot of a certain item, contact your buyer. If all of your RAM is a certain brand, contact the buyer. You may recieve a price premium.

    4. Understanding Shipping Reimbursements/Prepayment: A lot of buyers will help on shipping. Read up on their policies, and ask any questions. Prepaid shipping costs will depend on the box size and weight, while a reimbursement will not (in the same way). I've seen a lot of RAM lots packed into the USPS Small Flat Rate Box. I can't speak for all buyers, but my policy is to reimburse up to a certain value ($20/Lot Currently), regardless of the box size being used. Because of this policy, you have no reason to cram stuff into the Small Box, when the Medium Box would be reimbursed. In fact, there are a few reasons not to use the Small box for some lots:

    5. It has to be working for more than scrap value: That failed RAM that you have will fail testing on the buyer's end. There's nothing that you can do about parts that came to you damaged. But, your goal should be to not damage any parts in transit. When parts are damaged in transit, everyone loses. Below are pictures of two different lots that I've received:





    I'll never know what sticks were damaged before sending, but I can give you the pass/fail rates of those two lots. The lot of sticks that was neatly wrapped acheived a 96% pass rate. The pile of random sticks- 49%.

    6. Please Sort as best as you can: Some buyers will dock for sorting (At the time of writing, I don't). But, it takes us time to sort your lot. That means that you'll be waiting longer for payment. Know what you have. Server RAM and desktop RAM look identical, but there is a huge difference in pricing. A desktop stick worth $6.50 may only be worth $1.00 as a server stick. That adds up (Actually, subtracts) quickly!

    7. Packaging RAM: Bubble wrap it. You don't want sticks to move around. When that happens, sticks will become damaged, and will fail. Don't throw the sticks in a box or in sandwich bags. The bags will tear, and you'll have a mess. If you have Anti-Static bags, use them. If not, use bubble wrap. We have a store in town that will sell plenty for a RAM lot for $1.00. If the bubble wrap saves one stick, you're money ahead. I rubber band my lots together, and then wrap them tightly. You want the RAM to be as sturdy as a brick. See the first photo above. We hate failed sticks as much as you do- that's money that you won't receive, and we end up with scrap RAM. MY goal as a processor is to help you get as much stuff to me without damage as possible. If you need packing tips, please ask. I am more than happy to spend a minute of my time to help both of us on your lot. Everyone wins when sticks arrive in good, working consition.

    8. Hard Drives are as fragile as an egg: Remember when you carried an egg for a day in High School? Treat your hard drives that way (Unless you failed the assignment!) They need to be wrapped up tightly with a lot of cushioning. Imagine a phonograph working at 5400RPM (Or faster). That's basically how a hard drive works. If it is banged around, it likely will fail testing.

    9. Wrap CPUs Individually: This tip applies to both pinless and pinned CPUs. Pinned CPUs have over 300 pins on them- if one is bent, the CPU is scrap. For pinless CPUs, if the contacts become dirty, they'll often fail testing, too.I had a lot come in with a bag of pinned CPUs all thrown together. By mixing the valuable CPUs with the scrap ones, and not wrapping them, this client lost over $100. Bubble wrap is your friend!

    10. Don't Cram!: Going back to Point #4, you don't want to force your items in the box. If your buyer is paying for shipping, you won't lose anything by using the correct box. If your buyer doesn't pay for shipping, the parts that you save will offset the extra costs. It's not worth the risks. If your lot fits comfortably in the Small box, use it. Do you have to lean on it and force it to close? Stop! Use a little larger box, and you'll be less likely to lose parts to damage.

    11. Leave Your Information in the Box: Please leave your name, contact information, payment information, and if applicable, your SMF username, in the box. As a processor, one of the worst things that can happen is a box without a name. If we don't know who sent the box, we can't process it. We'll be able to track you down, but that scrap piece of paper makes our lives a lot easier- and allows us to process your lots more quickly.

    12: If in doubt, ask: Don't know if your buyer pays for something? Want some shipping tips? Don't know what you have? We're all more than glad to help. Any reputable buyer will want to help you. We're just a phone call, E-Mail, post, or Private Message away!

    Do you have any tips or questions?
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    First .... what a great post !

    If it's okay i would offer some opinions on hard drives & memory.

    1: When salvaging them from a computer treat them gently. Disconnect the cables carefully so that you don't damage the pins on the logic board. Always place the drive with the circuit board facing up on the bench because the little parts that are soldered on to the board are easily damaged.

    2: The general consensus is that there isn't as much of a market for the IDE drives as there once was. They're mostly obsolete now. Probably better to just scrap them out than fiddle with tying to ship them to a buyer.

    3: There have been around three generations of SATA HDD's. The oldest transferred data at a rate of 1.5 gb/sec. The next generation at a rate of 3.0 gb/ sec. The current generation standard is 6 gb / sec.

    They are not all alike even though they may appear to be the same.

    4: There is a niche market for HDD logic boards out there. Some tech companies deal with hard drive repair. This is a very specialized area of knowledge. If you read what they have to say they will tell you that most of the time a repair can be accomplished without the need of opening the case in a clean room.

    To put it another way .... most hard drive failures are not mechanical but rather due to a failure of the logic board. Guess who might be looking for a used circuit board ?

    The nice thing is that the boards weigh almost nothing and cost little to ship. The downside is the boards are very sensitive to sources of high electromagnetic discharge. That source could be almost anywhere so the best thing is to ship it in an anti static bag and carefully pad it.

    5: It's seldom that a hard drive that was pulled from salvage won't at least spin up. If they are defective they usually do the click of death. Occasionally you get read / write errors. There was one generation of HDD's from a major manufacturer that had head problems due to an experimental coating used on the platters but they power up allright as well.

    If you do find one that just won't power up it probably got zapped somehow. Check the power supply and motherboard for bad capacitors caused by a power surge. It might have gotten through and fried the logic board on the hard drive as well. With a little bit of detective work you can often figure out why a hard drive died.

    6: Do the right thing. Always wipe & test a hard drive before shipping to any buyer.

    It seems to be more or less the same with memory modules. Most appear to have been working at the time the pc's they were installed in were retired from service. Ground yourself against something metal when pulling them. Handle them carefully. Keep them separated from one another. Ship them in an anti static bag to protect them from errant electromagnetic discharges on the trip to your buyer. There may be fewer that arrive D.O.A.

    Just a few thoughts for whatever they might be worth.

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    Great tips Scrappah!

    I'll be posting a guide on building a hard drive testing station once I fight the cold off. If you can do in-house testing on drives, and ship them carefully, they'll usually be fine. If you send straight run or don't package them carefully, all bets are off....
    More than Scrap Value Shipment Tips: http://www.scrapmetalforum.com/scrap...tml#post242349

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    This is fantastic! Tips on how to package items are extremely helpful. I can already see some changes I will make for my next shipment. Anyone else that has some suggestions along these lines, please add what you have. This can help us all make more money.

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    Great post. As a buyer myself this is very helpful to all.

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    Feel free to post tips! Other buyers are more than welcome to reference this thread, too.

    Of course, I'd rather that you use me instead, but that's another issue!

    Stay tuned- once I beat the cold, I'll show you how to make a hard drive wiping and testing station for less than $30

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    As someone who is picking up their first load on scrap computer tomorrow I can say that I'm printing your list and hanging it in front of my workbench. Great tips. Thanks for the writeup!

    I'll be in touch soon about shipping to you.

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    I'm glad that I could help, and look forward to working with you!

    Packaging is key. If you're hauling whole computers in a pickup truck, I like to lay a blanket on the bed floor and the sides so the computers won't rub on the truck.

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    if you do ALOT of ram and higher end CPU's (say Xenons or newer stuff)...INVEST ins some cpu trays and ram trays...they are pretty **** cheap and will make sure your CPU;s and Ram are no damaged in shipping...most are anti static as well. I mean spend $3 to make an extra $20 you know?? They can be bought in bulk.
    PROFIT is made when you BUY/ACQUIRE NOT when you sell

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    Completely agree- you can purchase 50 of the Intel trays for $13. If it saves just 1 CPU, it's worth it....

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    I sometimes run out of stock when it comes to carriers, trays and so on...BUT.

    I will ship you trays for your CPUs and carriers for your ram. Plus I will ship a special case to you for up to 50 hard drives at a time. I have carriers or preferred methods of packaging for EVERYTHING I buy. All you need to do is ask. Since the shipping components come back to me I obviously don't charge for any of it.

    I also wanted to bring this to public attention. When it comes to me, I'd rather you not handle the more than scrap value stuff AT ALL with exception to physical inspection and shipping. Every time you mess with it you reduce it's probability of function by a percentage. Worse yet some of the things I buy can fry perfectly good motherboards if you try them out. Most computer components have a design insertion count, most times it's 30 or less insertion which for almost everyone is way more than you need.

    With that said, you can inspect graphics cards for heat sink blockage, fan problems, blown caps and so on. Intel CPUs can be carefully checked for all their SMDs before shipping. missing or damaged ones can be rejected out of hand. AMD CPUs should be checked for broken pins, bent is usually OK unless more than 30-50 pins are bent then you should think about rejecting the lower end AMD procs...anything quad core should be sent anyways because I will attempt to use my pin jig to reflow the entire face. I don't pay reduced amounts for CPUs I have to fix...just graphics cards that get rejected for fan or cap issues. Most of the time I will reflow a BGA on a graphics card just because I'm setup to do it already and it only takes me 10-12 minutes.

    Point I think for all of us buyers is ship them well, get paid the most. Ship loose and well...you will have issues but I've been over that dozens of times now.
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    I offer packaging materials too, as do many other buyers. If you have any questions, please ask us on how to use them. Trays and caddies are nice, but not required. The main goal is to stop music. I've had boxes sent in with literally no packaging- just loose sticks thrown in a box. Trust me- the end results won't be pretty! I had one box that had less than 40% passing. That's terrible!

    Agreed- don't handle items more than you have to. Especially CPUs- if a pin bends or a contact on an Intel CPU is damaged, you now have a scrap CPU.

    Keep the tips coming! Regardless of which processor you use, items that are saved from being damaged means more money in everyone's pocket.

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    Amen to that, way I see it the more that arrives in good working order the better it is for everyone involved.

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    Wonderful tips on better than scrap items. CPU clam-shells seem to be the hot item and a must have. Im seriously looking into bts rather than just going straight to the scrap bucket. (space/time permitted)

    Wondering if its worth time and effort in setting up my own testing station? RAM would be easy but CPUs would be more difficult due to all the socket styles. Might help my pass/fail %

    Great guide.

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