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    Trying to figure out what these are



    This has 3 holes on the other side that look the same.




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    The corporate is out of NJ, also factory in Penn. that went out of business. Dealt in all kinds of meters. water, gas, boiler, etc.

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    It looks to be a meter cover that the meter would be inside of.
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    Ya it is a meter I forgot to take the pic with the lid up. On the first pic I have not clue what it is. It's brass the stem part doesn't connect to the holes at the top. But it kind of looks like a key or a special tool

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    Brass deal looks like a stem for a two way,one handle faucet. How long was the stem?

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    Trying to figure out what these are

    The first one is a ball valve. If you ever take apart a shower handle, you'll find this right behind the "crystal ball" type handle. The long "key" looking part should have a threaded hole in the end for the faucet handle to screw in to.

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    Thanks guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinroch View Post
    A tiny bowling ball on a stick
    LOL.......very funny.....

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    The thing to the right of the water meter is the water meter bottom plate. It's made of cast iron and it's intended to break if the meter starts to freeze up in cold weather.

    Lots a brass in those things. As last i knew the water districts were changing over to stainless steel water meters. There might be hundreds of thousands of the brass ones coming on the scrap market. Something to keep an eye open for.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    The thing to the right of the water meter is the water meter bottom plate. It's made of cast iron and it's intended to break if the meter starts to freeze up in cold weather.

    Lots a brass in those things. As last i knew the water districts were changing over to stainless steel water meters. There might be hundreds of thousands of the brass ones coming on the scrap market. Something to keep an eye open for.
    When I was searching it out there were quite a few listings for different styles of meters on Ebay.

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    I don't know how well this will copy over but there's a new federal EPA law. Here's the jist of it:

    Lead-Free White Paper
    July 1, 2012 Revisions to NSF/ANSI Standard
    61 (Formerly Referred to as Annex F)
    On July 1, 2012, the chemical extraction requirements of NSF/ANSI
    Standard 61 were tightened to meet lead extraction limits of 5 ppb
    instead of the prior 15 ppb for small meters and 0
    .
    5 ppb instead of
    1
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    5 ppb for meters 4 inches and larger
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    The tightened requirements
    were detailed within Annex F but became the new lead leachate
    requirement of NSF/ANSI Standard 61
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    Badger Meter BiAlloy, engineered polymer, M-Series and E-Series
    meters comply and are certified to this tighter standard
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    copy of the NSF compliance listing issued to Badger Meter, please
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    Jan. 4, 2014 Amendment to the Federal Safe
    Drinking Water Act – Public Law No. 111-380
    The Safe Drinking Water Act (SDWA) is the main federal law that
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    administered by the EPA
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    4, 2011, President Obama signed legislation (S
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    Reduction of Lead in Drinking Water Act) into federal law
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    This is a federal requirement for all potable
    water applications
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    Currently, Public Law 111-380 does not require
    third-party compliance certification
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    Public Law 111-380 will affect all states, and compels all water meter
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    polymer and stainless steel meters already meet these requirements
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    To assist water utilities with compliance with the new law, Badger
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    It's enough to make your spin eh ?

    What it means is that A LOT of brass water meters are going to have to be taken out of service and sent to the scrap yard for recycling.

    If you were looking for computers to scrap you might get in good with a computer repair shop.

    If you could build a relationship with someone in the water department it could turn out to be a rich source of scrap metal. Things made of copper & brass but also tons and tons of iron & steel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by spinroch View Post
    A tiny bowling ball on a stick
    That what my first thought was

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    It's enough to make your spin eh ?

    What it means is that A LOT of brass water meters are going to have to be taken out of service and sent to the scrap yard for recycling.

    If you were looking for computers to scrap you might get in good with a computer repair shop.

    If you could build a relationship with someone in the water department it could turn out to be a rich source of scrap metal. Things made of copper & brass but also tons and tons of iron & steel.
    Ya but people now days know what scrap is going for especially plumbers and electrians. Some save it for a month and turn it in for like a company dinner or something like that.

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    It just depends on who you talk to.

    I did the day to day operation of a water company with about 350 services. My boss was back in the office doing paperwork most of the time. If i took an old water meter or saved an old copper water line and cashed them in at the end of the month nobody had a problem with it. It was just one of the fringe benefits of the job. A couple of bucks here and there isn't much.

    I remember one of the local welders tore down the old standpipe. It was a water tank that stood 25 feet tall and was 20 feet in diameter. I heard from him later that he made thousands on the steel that was salvaged from that job.

    We had something called the boneyard where we kept old sections of 8" cast iron water main and obsolete fire hydrants. The amount of tonnage in there was massive. Most of the time we had to use the backhoe & a chain to pick any one of those things up.

    Some of the larger water meters that i installed weighed over 80 lbs. That's a lot of brass in just one thing.

    Some of the smaller pumps i ran had 50 hp electric motors. The largest pumped 500 gpm and weighed over 4000 lbs.

    Point being : This is scrapping on a much bigger scale. It's a sweet opportunity that might otherwise be overlooked.

    What you do is go and talk with the boss. Make an arrangement with him to buy what scrap metals come available instead of letting the workers lug it off. That way the company makes a little bit of money for their scrap and you make money.

    If you had a business arrangement with a water district that had 10,000 services (and brass meters ) it could be very good for you.


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