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    Out of State Aluminum can recycling

    Just wondering what the protocol is on bringing can from a state without deposit across state lines to a state with deposits. Hypothetically let's say I go at it hard, save all my cans for an entire year, and decide that I want to go to California on vacation. Could I bring my cans, that I get $0.60 per pound for here and tale them with me to cash in on the $2.00 + I've read about in California? Or would I have to have a California I'D? Most of the cans I see still have the deposit info on them even though we get no deposit here in Oklahoma. It will probably never happen, just a thought that's been on my mind lately.



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    Trying to claim a deposit for a can/bottle without a deposit label will get you a big fine and/or jail time .
    People may laugh at me, but that's ok. I laugh all the way to the bank.

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    If they've got a California deposit label, then no problem but how did they get sold in OKLA?

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    All of the more generic cans like Faygo, Rc Cola, and such print the deposit amounts on every can regardless of where they are sold. Coke and Pepsi, which have many bottling facilities, do not. This was completely hypothetical as I was only curious. I would never actually go though with it. Thanks for the quick responses guys.

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    Every 6 months this comes up. Did the Seinfeld episode re-run again in the past 2 weeks? Please, Please, Please research the program again. You'll see why it doesn't work. There are 3 main reasons it doesn 't work. Next week will be a pop quiz on what those 3 reasons are.

    Did anyone know out here you can ask google or any browser, for that matter, a question? You can actually type in "Why won't hauling cans from a state with no recycling deposit to a state with a deposit not work" and get the answers. It's almost like the internet can read your mind.

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    I guess what I'm really asking is, how do they verify that the cans were purchased in CA or elsewhere, and that the deposit was actually paid. Or is there no verification, only the refund amount stamped on the can as ryanw stated?

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    it seems like too much of a hassle to me but, I read on here somewhere(I believe an intro) that in Michigan they have machines out front of the stores and you run them through yourself, it prints a receipt and you take it in the store and get your cash, just speculation but my accent may throw a red flag and im sure large amounts would require an id
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    It's almost like the internet can read your mind.
    I hate when they try doing that! On a recent google search I began to type scrap metal something or another, and as I began to type scr it kept tossing southwest airlines up there ; )

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    Near as I can figure from a google search is that, yeah, it's possible to do this, but not legal, moral, or ethical.

    So in other words, don't do it.
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    I still want to know if I live in AZ and vacation in California stay for a week and buy soda, btl water and beer and are charged the deposit on the cans and bottles when I buy them in California, how do I get the deposit back? I just leave them for the hotel staff!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    Every 6 months this comes up.
    Every 6 months??? Didn't you just join in January?

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    Join and lurk and spending DAYS READING OLD POSTS are 3 different things.

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    I moved out of CA what seems like a lifetime ago, so I don't remember how they operate, but I live in MA and cash in my water bottles in CT when I visit my mother. It has never been a problem for me and usually covers my toll money there and back. Plastic bottles aren't exactly hurting my gas mileage either.
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    In Vermont anybody can do returnables (as long as it says VT) but in Maine you have to be a resident even if you bought them there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gangel View Post
    Did anyone know out here you can ask google or any browser, for that matter, a question? You can actually type in "Why won't hauling cans from a state with no recycling deposit to a state with a deposit not work" and get the answers. It's almost like the internet can read your mind.
    How about next time actually posting what you found by typing that in instead of saying how we are so lazy and don't know how to use Google. That way, you don't look like a hypocrite who tells people to use Google but doesn't actually do it himself. I actually Googled what you said would pull up results answering the question at hand, and aside from this thread coming up as the first result, the only thing that remotely answers the question is this article:
    Recycling fraud costs California $200MILLION as truckloads of cans are shipped in | Mail Online
    It doesn't say it's illegal, but there are criminal cases over it.
    Made in China, Recycled in the Republic of Texas!

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    I can see where someone would want to try this 34 cans to a pound X .05 is $1.70 a pound. I don't think people make as much money as they think they can doing this! Not worth the risk for a truck load of cans! Now the small time guy who lives on the border state and takes cans once a week, he may do ok, with this scam...

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    In one of the rare cases where arrests were made, two Department of Justice agents happened to spot a truck hauling cans as it entered California from Yuma, Arizona.

    The agents followed the vehicle 150 to San Diego, where the men inside turned in 21 bags full of cans.

    The process was repeated at least three more times in the next weeks. Officials estimate the men made $189,000 in illegal gains.
    I call BS on this. If my math is correct, they supposedly hauled nearly 4 million cans, and if I understand it correctly they have to be scanned one by one, which means they can't be crushed.

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    I've seen machines that scan them, but mostly they are bought by weight just like everywhere else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by IdahoScrapper View Post
    .... if I understand it correctly they have to be scanned one by one, which means they can't be crushed.
    When I was stationed in Connecticut in the 80s they had a 5¢ a can deposit and the cans could not be crushed. All I knew was: 6 empty cases of Piels would get you one full one.

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    Thanks for the people who defended me. I was really just passing the time at work and thought i would see if anyone was up for discussing the topic. I never claimed it was right, i haven't seen the Seinfeld episode, i am no newbie when it comes to google, and i was really just curious as to what stops the residents in the border states from doing this. There is no way i am even remotely close enough to do so. God forbid i start a random discussion on a slow day at work. Plus even if i do google something i still prefer the discussion and feedback i receive here. It's much more entertaining. And if it's a waste of time for some people to respond then they should not respond. Nothing like going out of your way to be a Richard.

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