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    Regarding the OP's post about 'owner operator yards' and the contracts they have with their buyers.
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    This is something that can be important to the scrappers who tend to save up their metal.
    Now 1956 mentions hus fullfulling of a contract. He's got, say, a contract to sell 40 tonnes of Copper and right now has 38 tons and needs at least 2 more tons and the boats leaving in 4 days.....
    That's where you come in, you have 500kgs Copper, or whatever, even 180 kgs Copper (that's 4 seed sacks of Copper from experience...) but....
    You have told 1956 that "So far I have saved up 180kgs Copper wire and I can get my hands on another 70kg scrap Copper if I scrap down everything else Ihave with me."
    Now, 1956 knows 'that there's 250kg Copper out there and all he has to do is make one phone call, a better than average offer and its delivered, or even picked up, and its his'.
    Another 3 or 4 phone calls, the Copper contracts fullfulled and its on the boat in 3 days. Whammo!! Deals done!



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    Quote [ Information is being sought on the virgin steel market. Evidently certain manufacturers are looking for metal that has not been recycled yet because of it's purity. This seems to be an underground market without public pricing, ctiveyet is based on current steel production and the cost ratio of new verses first time recycled. Based on research, old farm equipment, manufacturing equipment, power plants, etc. have a higher value than most scrap values.]

    I am not sure, but I think this has something to do with radioactive iron.
    All metal smelted after WWII has background radioactivity in it. Where radioactivity is measured, background radioactivity messes up things. Medical machines sometimes need to have no background radioactivity too.
    So everything iron around them has to be made from prewar iron. The machine itself, renforcing iron, nails, screws, everything.
    I'm guessing, since fukushima, things have got worse and since there's a limited supply people are looking really hard for this Iron.
    I know farmers are now digging up stuff that was buryed decades ago, often to just full holes, because its worth so much now.
    Also, people are looking for old photos of construction sites as often the metal was buryied nearby.
    Power stations are covered with a sheet Copper roof, imagine the offcuts of Copper.....

    p.s. I happened to buy 2nd hand the National geographic DVD about metal scrapping.
    The one with Gershows yard in it. I noticed the radioactivity detector on the edge of the weighbridge. Now that's probably made from ex prewar recycled iron....
    Just a example you might get to see.

    Great dvd too, huge yard, bigger than any I have seen. We also scrap our metal down to its individual grades here, no one sells metal without sorting cleaning it right down and putting it into sacks, boxes or such.
    Unless they have never sold to a yard and someone told them they would get more money for it at the scrappers.
    Last edited by eesakiwi; 10-23-2014 at 03:20 AM.

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