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    Sledge, good thread, got my vote. Good pics and write up!

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    Otto:
    That's another good tip.. I have to say that with all that pressure in the vise I have had pieces flying when I pop the fronts from time to time. I just got an 8lb mini-sledge for christmas.. so I may give that a whirl- would indeed cut down on time!! Thanks!
    I'm so into scrapping.. When my Steel Toe Boots Wear out, I cut the Steel out of them and recycle the Toe!

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    Quote Originally Posted by DakotaRog View Post
    Sledge- I like your attitude!!!
    Thank you sir! I coin myself a "maximizer" meaning I work to maximize every opportunity life hands me.. whether that be a scrap outlet or something else. I work to seize those opportunities I am given and prosper for my family! If I don't know how to maximize something.. this contest thread may just answer my questions! Lots of great breakdowns going on here at the SMF!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SuperDave View Post
    Sledge, good thread, got my vote. Good pics and write up!
    SuperDave: Thanks my brother from up north!! I am humbled!
    If only my line of work wouldn't destroy a touch screen phone I may have had cleaner images for the thread.. but no worries.. I work with what I've got. He He

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge View Post
    Jon-
    Thank you.. and to answer your question. I have to remove them from the wall.. so I'm getting paid my billable time to do so. Once I get them home and put them in a vice, I'm looking at about 30-45 seconds each to break down. So it of course isn't a "set the world on fire" amount of $ in the scrap.. but all of it gets added to its respective sort bucket and it all adds up over time. If left as is- I'd get sheet steel pricing and miss out on all the brass and copper $ in them.. and since I'm breaking down in my spare time, making some coin in my spare time is just fiiiiine with me.
    I had a few wall outlets, I just took them tout the yard and they payed me "plug" price which was $0.10/lb. I am going to try and take them apart next time I get some. I figured they would take a while to do one. Thanks for the new tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Longhairboy View Post
    I had a few wall outlets, I just took them tout the yard and they payed me "plug" price which was $0.10/lb. I am going to try and take them apart next time I get some. I figured they would take a while to do one. Thanks for the new tip!
    No problem!!! I figure at $1.50/lb for Brass and $2.80 for copper, as well as the .09/lb for steel right now.. we've all got to "get ahead" by breaking them down vs a "plug price"
    I've never actually been to a yard that pays a "plug price" But you'll profit a bunch more with either the vice trick or a rag and BIG F HAMMER (BFH) idea that Otto Posted!
    These are sort of like cracking nuts! You toss the shell (plastic) and get all the meaty goodness inside (brass and copper)
    Mmmmmmm

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    The things I try and sell as "plugs" are the little connectors from electronics, other than gold ones

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    For those of you breaking down outlets and switches, Keep your magnet handy.
    You'll find only really old switches and outlets still have solid brass screws. A lot of newer ones will even have one brass and one steel screw for some reason or brass plated steel. :P
    Been there done TO many
    Last edited by Abuilder; 01-08-2015 at 08:23 AM.

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    Sledge Great thread!
    Wish the contractors I picked up from saved half the stuff you do!
    NH-likes cracking plugs for their delicious creamy center
    There ain't nothing wrong with an honest days work. Anyone who says otherwise is a fool.- Old Man

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    Quote Originally Posted by NHscrapman View Post
    Sledge Great thread!
    Wish the contractors I picked up from saved half the stuff you do!
    NH-likes cracking plugs for their delicious creamy center
    NH-
    Thanks man.. Well I will say that I am the minority. At the place I have my standing contract the owner has 4 other guys who rehab his property.. they are all his employees. Over the years I have seen countless guys come and go. Each one I tell them "Hey when you pull this kind of stuff- just set it aside for me, I'll come and get it" They never do. I find myself when I take a run to the dump trailer on site.. just jumping in and purging this kind of stuff. They always just toss it.

    My philosophy is "if they aren't smart enough to take it and profit from it.. then I will!" I have to remove this stuff regardless, doesn't take but a second to throw it in one bin or bucket and take it home to sort and break down. It's a great perk of my work!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge View Post
    NH-
    Thanks man.. Well I will say that I am the minority. At the place I have my standing contract the owner has 4 other guys who rehab his property.. they are all his employees. Over the years I have seen countless guys come and go. Each one I tell them "Hey when you pull this kind of stuff- just set it aside for me, I'll come and get it" They never do. I find myself when I take a run to the dump trailer on site.. just jumping in and purging this kind of stuff. They always just toss it.

    My philosophy is "if they aren't smart enough to take it and profit from it.. then I will!" I have to remove this stuff regardless, doesn't take but a second to throw it in one bin or bucket and take it home to sort and break down. It's a great perk of my work!
    I did the same thing this summer. I wirked on a fair grounds during the off season doing maintenacne and ground works, and when I was picking up he garbage from the fair I got like 3 or 4 pounds of aluminum and I saved every old nail I found.

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    Sledge,

    Ever since someone posted "I bought my first,,," (can't remember just now what it was, but it was quite funny) I've been sensitized for other humourous word plays and you've been the next!!

    "got an 8lb mini-sledge for Christmas" .... Did your wife have a baby boy?



    Jon. --- probably needing to run for cover right now.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by sawmilleng View Post
    Sledge,

    Ever since someone posted "I bought my first,,," (can't remember just now what it was, but it was quite funny) I've been sensitized for other humourous word plays and you've been the next!!

    "got an 8lb mini-sledge for Christmas" .... Did your wife have a baby boy?



    Jon. --- probably needing to run for cover right now.....
    Jon-
    HA HA! Wow that one (of my own words no less) flew right over my own head! No sir.. I literally got an 8lb min-sledge hammer from Santa..
    The irony of all of the joke is my nickname "Sledge" was bestowed upon me in College when I took a long handle 10 lb sledge and drove it through the top of a TV, all the way through it and the picnic table edge it was sitting on..

    I say your "catch" was a pretty darn good one!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by sledge View Post
    NH-
    Thanks man.. Well I will say that I am the minority. At the place I have my standing contract the owner has 4 other guys who rehab his property.. they are all his employees. Over the years I have seen countless guys come and go. Each one I tell them "Hey when you pull this kind of stuff- just set it aside for me, I'll come and get it" They never do. I find myself when I take a run to the dump trailer on site.. just jumping in and purging this kind of stuff. They always just toss it.

    My philosophy is "if they aren't smart enough to take it and profit from it.. then I will!" I have to remove this stuff regardless, doesn't take but a second to throw it in one bin or bucket and take it home to sort and break down. It's a great perk of my work!
    Loud and clear
    Heck I created a job for myself out of these guys, and a few others in very similar situations.
    let's hope they keep tossing the good stuff eh
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    Quote Originally Posted by Abuilder View Post
    For those of you breaking down outlets and switches, Keep your magnet handy.
    You'll find only really old switches and outlets still have solid brass screws. A lot of newer ones will even have one brass and one steel screw for some reason or brass plated steel. :P
    Been there done TO many
    The plugs are polarized. The black wire usually goes to the dark / brassy screw. The white wire goes to the steel / whitish screw. Green goes to ground.

    Just a heads up .... in this area, the last guy that did any kind of electrical work on the place is liable for the whole electrical system in the building. It's more for insurance purposes and figuring out who is on the hook if anything goes wrong later. If you're doing re-hab work it's almost better to call in a licensed & insured master electrician. That way you've covered your a$$.

    ( Sorry for the detour Sledge. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Scrappah View Post
    The plugs are polarized. The black wire usually goes to the dark / brassy screw. The white wire goes to the steel / whitish screw. Green goes to ground.

    Just a heads up .... in this area, the last guy that did any kind of electrical work on the place is liable for the whole electrical system in the building. It's more for insurance purposes and figuring out who is on the hook if anything goes wrong later. If you're doing re-hab work it's almost better to call in a licensed & insured master electrician. That way you've covered your a$$.

    ( Sorry for the detour Sledge. )
    I guess I wasn't very clear about what I was trying to pointing out.
    Yes I know color code having been in the business for 44 years!
    The facts are most of the connection screws these days are steel no matter what color they are.

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    No offense intended bro. There's no way for me to know how much time you had in. I'm sure you've seen some pretty scary electrical things buried inside walls. I know i certainly have. It was a miracle that those places didn't burn to the ground.

    Point being: There's no way of knowing what's there so don't sign off on it by being the last guy to work on it.

    CYOA !

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    Excellent thread, Sledge! Great write up and great pics.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ohio Scrapper View Post
    Excellent thread, Sledge! Great write up and great pics.
    Thank you! I appreciate the "kudos" May have a thing or two to add to the thread before the close of the contest as well.

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    What is the final plan for that apartment/building? You are removing things that would normally stay in a remodel.

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