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Well I felt up to taking in my ac. I had been saving since before I got sick. We the yards want take them. Said I needed documents that I replaced my ac in my house. Well I have build up a stock pile. I guess I should have got them in before the new year. Well where there is a will there is a way. They try to make it hard for a honest man!
Got them broke down. Sold compressors and wire. Have to get reef in.
Maybe haul to another county or if you have a big load take them across the state line.
2 main laws you'll have to deal with over here: 1 Must have Govt. issued I.D. 2 Getting paid with check. At least in this part of Louisiana. But probably won't have any problems. Louisiana takes anything from anywhere.
Depending on the degree you will tear them down certainly any yard will take them at the point of RAW . The sealed motor case shell is great SHORT I've seen on Utube some even cut the AL to get at copper tubes . The point of RAW it is basically not recognizable.especially when mixed with other items.
A honest man will do it the right way. Either sell the unit to an a/c recycler or get the certification to do it yourself (on-line open book test). It's not rocket science and it will open up a lot of doors for you.
This should be simple to fix. You collected over time ac units as stated so there is a paper trail. The company that replaced the units has a record of each home owner. Unless you are talking just window shakers.Quote:
Originally Posted by ocedy
FreonJoe has it right! It has come of age that certification and documentation is a must! An honest man these days will need a paper to prove it!
The day of a handshake to seal the deal is over!
I agree with ya on this ,Injunjoe, but I still like a good firm handshake.Quote:
Originally Posted by injunjoe
What about ac's picked up in front of houses? do you knock on the door and have the owners write a letter stating you got it from them?
Newattitude, the Texas laws require a recycling company to have one of the following three things for central a/c coils: 1) a HVAC license 2) A receipt or bill of sale for the material 3) a receipt for the purchase of a replacement unit. Window units do not require this paperwork. I would recommend getting this: http://www.officedepot.com/a/product...-Books-6-1116/ Fill one out whenever you get the material and have the original owner both print their name and sign it, adding the address where you got the material helps as well. Give them the original and keep the carbon copy.
Az trying to pass this... C. A scrap metal dealer shall not knowingly purchase residential or commercial air conditioner components, including evaporative and cooling coils, condensers, radiators and compressors, unless the air conditioner components are purchased from an industrial account. END_STATUTE
Ocedy.....I am in the Houston market as well. I work in the commercial roofing field. We reroof a lot of warehouses and shopping centers. We always identify all the obsolete roof top eqipment that is no longer in use and usually remove it in conjunction with the reroof (why flash in penetrations that are not in use??). In doing this, many of the old penetrations are old A/C units. So I end up with quite a few coils. Often it is a package unit that has had the condensor coil stolen but the evaporator coil is still in there. But I also still get quite a few of the complete units as well. Either way, I end up with around 50 sets of coils a year. When prices are up, I will haul them in. The scrap yards within the city limits of Houston require you to have a TACL license #. Being in commercial roofing, I don't have that. You can go to scrap yards outside the city limits but they generally pay .20, .30, .40, and even .50 less than the guys in the city limits because they know the game. I have a non-ferrous scrap yard in teh city limits that historically has the best prices on non-ferrous stuff that I go to that takes my coils without the required TACL license. This is provided I document who I am, how I came about possessing them, our tax ID #, the information of the HVAC guy we used to recapture the freon and perform the disconnect, and the locations that they originated. I have done this a few times now since the law was passed down here and it works every time. I am honest and my stuff is always acquired legally. Approach them and offer to provide the best paper trail you can.
Hm, so if they did this by me all I need is my LLC papers? Those are very easy to get and no real barrier to entry.Quote:
Originally Posted by hobo finds
You have to have a EPA 608 license where I'm at and you are expected to sign off a waiver on transactions for AC/Fridge/Freezer/Dehumidifier units. I'm trying to be as legit as possible and making all the proper certifications before I get involved. If you want to do it "the right way", You'll need to find a place that will certify you, that usually is about $150, then go grab some equipment; Tanks for each kind of refrigerant, an evac unit, manifold gauges, a line punch tool. I was lucky and found a bunch of retired hvac guys on Craigslist and bought their equipment for pennies.
This is an old thread, but this stuff is constantly changing. I can take in coils from window units no problem. Anything that has a curve to it means I need proof of ownership.
Any AC units that I get that are not window units usually come from where I work at. We have over 120 rooms each with a unit and the building is about 20 years old, so there are several units replaced every year. They come in spurts like anything else. Sometimes I will get a few a month and other times it will be months between getting one.
In Florida, I can get by with selling these. I get a letter from the head of the maintenance department saying that they are rightfully mine to scrap. I still have to get a check for them rather than cash like everything else. The letter is good for 3 months and they keep it on file. I usually let my pile of radiators build up and when I am ready to take it in, I ask for a fresh letter from maintenance.
Your mileage may vary depending on where you live.
I live in ky. Scrapping window units is fine, get paid cash. Central air units u have to wait 3 days for the scrap yard to write a check, and it has to be mailed to a physical address no po boxes. The scrap yard told me to cut the raidors up (in the curve) and that will be fine.
Here in Texas you need to have a license, or proof you switched out a unit, or a receipt saying you bought the item for recycling.
I thought that until a 2-3 years ago, i had broken down my first window ac unit, took the copper tubes in, and scale operator said they wouldnt take that copper because of the lines on the tubes left by the aluminum fins would indicate it came from an air conditioner. but said they could take the elbows i cut off the ends. (i thought that was very weird). Over my next few trips i would cut up the copper tubes up into like 1 inch pieces ( a pain in the you know what) and mix in with the rest of my #2 copper. 3 years later I have finally pulled the copper out of the fins from 4 air conditioners that have been in garage for 2-3 years lol bUT FUNNY PART IS they said they would take the complete air conditioner on the ferrous side of the yard with no problemQuote:
Originally Posted by Copper Head
Anyone who is young, and has time to kill, can become certified by an entry level maintenance position at an apartment complex, or any multi living establishment that requires maintenance men on staff. If you really search, you will find a place that provides the test in-house,and pays for it, because it is required by most state laws. You will also get hands on training, before they let you go,lol. A certification without experience is useless without hands on training. And in my state you only have to pass 2 of the 3 sections. Universal is difficult without training, but they let me use the book,lol??? PLEASE STOP TURNING CO2 TO CO3!!!! It takes a real human being to do it correctly. I feel remorse for my younger days. Wisdom is a *****!!!
Certification training is available here on the forum. I suggest Universal is doable with the available training I just mentioned.Quote:
Originally Posted by chilibean
Many of the state community colleges have the training that will prepare someone to do maintenance in many different positions. One of the jobs the local college here has placed graduates is doing repair at fast food chain restaurants.
In my opinion these are great careers for young people to pursue. Far better than the human studies grads unhappy they don't qualify for a fast food job and a huge education debt.
Mike
not to mention that recycling the FREON can generate FAR FAR more money than the AC units themselves....some of the types are worth $100's per tank.