I remember those days, Once had a wooden spoon break when my ma spanked me. So she got another. HA
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I remember those days, Once had a wooden spoon break when my ma spanked me. So she got another. HA
Kris Kringle I didn't even watch the video at least I am honest about it. This was in the news I want to say three months ago and I think the girl is special needs to. Makes me sick. The daughter was 16 at the time I think and she didn't release the video till she was 21. I don't know why I am pretty sure this is border line child abuse if not child abuse I don't know what to call it.
I could only watch the first minite or so before my stomach started to roll. we had a weeping willow tree just outside the back door. for those who dont know, a willow switch is a killer on the legs and back.
unfortunately my most vivid childhood memorys are the willow switch whippings I got as a kid. my mother would sometimes meet me a half mile from the house and whip me all the way home. I was raised by my grandparents who were raised in the 1800s so thats just the way it was.
I dont know if the whippings changed any thing in my attitude, just made me tougher. but I do believe they contributed to the fact I was a drinker and bad ass bar brawler for the first 35 years of my life. at 37 I met my current wife and my life changed. I have never had to spank my kids, they knew who I was and heard the stories and, for 20 years a simple Kile! or Morgan! has been enough.
Always two sides to the story see Kris Kringle I didn't read to much into it other then I saw the video on the most god awful show on TV nancy grace and all she did was yell like usual for about 10 mins about it before I turned it off.
“Hillary warned her father if he reduced her financial support, and took away her Mercedes automobile, which her father had provided, he would live to regret it. The post was then uploaded.”
**** I wish I was 23 and rolling around in benz. She does have cerebal palsy though so I don't know how I should feel about the video one side of me says its sick the other side says shes the c-word because poor daddy cut off his financial support to a 23 year old soon to be college dropout working at a video store.
Well, I guess HE showed her when she tried to blackmail him. Her "special needs" designation was due to cerebral palsy.
He was wrong. He knew it. That's why he's gone into hiding. When he does return, he won't be handling any child abuse cases. He's being considered for censure by the State bar and investigated be the police. The only reason he hasn't been charged so far is being past the statute of limitations.
I believe in disciplining children, including spanking, but this went too far into assault and battery.
Im only 37 and I remember the willow tree twitch beatings as well olddude. That was one sentence you didnt want to hear come from moms mouth. "Go get me a twitch from the willow tree"Quote:
Originally Posted by olddude
Grandma had a way with Hot Wheels tracks that got my attention.
I honestly believe most parents do the best they can most of us are young and have no life experience when we start having kids , but to beat a kids silly is beyond what I could ever wrap my head around
bottom line to me is in todays world, you don't attack a child with a weapon of any type except in self deffence. just my .02
Nope you let them play xbox all day so when they turn 18 they can join the airforce and fly drones and kill people like its a video game for a living. Ive beat my son with a belt 2 times in his life. Both times I hit the breaking point with him and reason no longer figured into the equation. Sometimes corperal punishment is needed and if they want to call the cops when im done ill dial the number for them and they can go live in a foster home.
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Originally Posted by submarinepainter
It is very easy for an adult to accidentally kill a child by shaking them or unintentionally pushing them into something or hitting their heads. Probably most of the people who do kill their kids never meant for that to happen.
Ok...I am not going to say much but the only thing I can easy note are these simple facts...
Every time the father and mother left...her crying had stopped until they came back in.
She knew about the video but right in front of it...she was not doing as asked making everything worse ON her self.
At the end of the video she gets up and walks over to the cam and turned it off....she did not seem like a kid who just got "beat" I know when I was "beat" I would not be getting up any time soon and would be crying the whole time.
She i think...made a "show" to "get back".
P.s yes my mother and father both spanked me when I did something wrong and I would do the same to my child if they do something wrong...a beating/spanking now can save them from going down a wrong road.
OMFG! I grew up in total poverty....so willow trees didn't grow near, let alone other bushes with switches. Hot wheels tracks were the whoopin' of choice in my younger years. I once realized that I was going to get it, so I cut up my hot wheels track into 1" pieces on my mothers bed. I still got it, but at least it wasn't with one of my toys! LOL. How bad is it when you get it with something you unwrapped for Christmas? Kids these days! And here I thought I was the only one with that "hot wheels" story! It's a small world.....and somewhere KZ, we're like blood. LMAO!Quote:
Originally Posted by KZBell
I was very fortunate to have kids who never required corporal punishment, just the threat has always been enough. typical lazy teenagers , yes they are , but straight as a string . except for a little pot now and then :0 and, they do what I ask, and they listen to what I say. even at 70 I still have them bluffed thank God. and Kyle is 6' 2" at 18.
Since we're relating personal experiences - I would have gladly taken the willow switch - mine was a 2x4 over the head. That was after I was made to stand in a hog water tank full and put my head under water. Then hit with the 2x4 when i came up for air. Yes - blood ran and I still have a ridge on top of my head. Got hit with something you got for Christmas? I'd have liked to just GET something for Christmas. The point is - it's all relative. This guy still went beyond what can be considered discipline. It's comparable to police brutality - abuse of power (parental authority). He was out of control. If she had brought it out a few years earlier, there would most definitely been criminal charges.
(you may think bs, but I assure you it isn't. I've written my life story for my family)
Ive always kind of wondered about you :) seriously, sry to hear that. my dad used his hands and later his fist untill I was 14, and put a stop to that crap. I was 5 min late, he decided he was going to give me an A kicking, that was the last time he tried. I know about 2x4s my shop teacher in school once broke one across my back. still have the scar. later that year. while we were all at a school dance some friends of mind completely dismanteled his car and left it in a pile i the teachers parking lot behind the school. :)
Ok personaly story. When I was about 11 years old my friends and I were playing in my bedroom a game we called mattress football. We didnt have beds just mattresses that layed on the floor. Yeah I grew up in the ghetto. I think it made me the stronger person I am today. Anyway back to my story. We played matress football and we were making a ton of noise. My father yells from the living room for us to quite down. Father is 6 foot 2 and was never under 400 lbs that I can remember. Well being the brats we were we didnt quite down and he kept yelling at us to do so. Well about 10 minutes later he comes bashing threw the door and backhands me across the face. Now I was standing right beside the matress and I flew off my feet and landed inside my closit. I forgot to mention the closit door was closed. Needless to say my father broke my nose from the smack. I think from the time I was 7 till about 12 I got a spanking of some sort about once a month at least. To this day I love my parents to death. I talk to both of them on the phone at least 3 to 4 times a week as im walking my route. I am glad for the disciplin they gave to me. It made me the person I am today.
different strokes for different folks so to speak.(pun intended) sry pts just could pass that one up. :)
I think she got it pretty easy when i screwed up my dad beat me bloody with his fists.Was it extreme possibly was it good for me most definatly.
I cann"t understand why videos of this kind of thing is even posted on a scrap metal forum. It has nothing to do with scrap metal. And why is everybody talking about child abuse and unruly children. Just wondering.
dont know that any one was offended by the original post. I wasen't . I personally just disagree with the whole approach by the parents. also dont agree with the set up by the daughter. but for the most part what happens in some one elses castle is really none of my business.
That's not even that bad of a "beating"... Child abuse? Not at all in my opinion. Excessive? Yup. And she's definitely overplaying it (the daughter). Getting beaten with a wide belt like that was a lot easier than with the skinny belts. The skinny ones were often a leather that seemed to have a "harder" finish. Those hurt a helluva lot more! I got a fair few belt whippin's as a kid, mostly deserved :D
Honestly, if my opinion of anyone was lessened by this vid, it was the daughter for being a useless money-grubbing black-mailing POS.
Little bit of a personal story. My mom is a back woods country type, alcoholic unfortunately. My dad, a Vietnam vet with extreme PTSD. My parents got divorced when i was 5. Mom would get drunk, and take me on drives. Take me up to the mountains, to a bar. Leave me in the car for hours. Come back out and we'd go home. All while my Dad was at work. (worked 2 jobs at the time). I have memories of watching mom throw objects at dad in a drunken rage. From microwaves to irons. I would be hiding in a corner or under a table. I did get hit a few times, just caught in the crossfire.
Dad never beat me. I DID get spanked when i was young. When i was in my early teens dad hand made a paddle, called the "Knock you on your ass stick". He only used it twice on me. I never was a "bad" kid, always "yes sir, no sir, yes ma'am, no ma'am". Just raised the right way. (Not sayin none of yall were). When i turned 16 i decided that i deserved the whole world and wanted it right now! You know what i'm talking about. Typical 16 year old stuff. Had an attitude. Reckon that came from bein teased at school at a constant, mind numbing pace, and coming from a broken home. Dad and i were argueing about something, dont remember now. I kept saying "Get off my back! Get outta my face!" to pops. He got me by my throat, shoved me up against the wall, told me if i ever say that again ill regret it. So, in typical manner, i said "Get off my back and go f*** yourself". BAM. He let me go, and slapped me into oblivion. I remember waking up, and runnin out the door. Ran away to a cousins house for a week, finally had to come home. Came home STILL with an attitude. Dad told me if i kept cussin at him he'll call the cops. Told him "You dont have the tits" (We STILL laugh about that line hahaha) He called the cops on me sure nough. It was a long night, but we eventually got through it. I straightened up, and turned out alright.
Now i love my mom to death. She quit drinking so much when i turned 18. We got into a HUGE argument, she told me that i dont know what i'm talking about. I remember saying "Great, i'm being screamed at by a f****** drunk", then i left her house. That was the turning point for her. Ended up telling her that i will not continue to have a relationship with her if she keeps drinking. I simply couldnt handle the drunk calls every night, crying, all worked up about something. Mom is good now. She got remarried to a POS (my opinion, not hers), and is doing good.
My dad and i have a fantastic relationship. We've had our problems in the past. But everything that happened made me a better person. I'm proud of the way i was raised.
This video is horrible. I totally believe that she did that whole thing for attention. When mom used to throw me around and slap me around, i sure as hell wasnt just walking it off like she was. I do NOT agree with how excessive they were though. Parents have some screws loose, that's for sure.
Lol!!!!!!!!!!
http://sparethekids.com/2011/08/chri...-rod%E2%80%9D/
"To “spare the rod” is indicative of a parent who does not discipline their child, that is, to teach, guide, and direct. This is the parent who “hates their child.” To spare the rod doesn’t mean a parent should beat down their children into submission, rather they are to be like shepherds who value and care for their charges and keep them from danger by using the tools of good parenting to teach responsible behavior and appropriate morality."
Just a thought: If hitting children works, why do you have to keep doing it?
Guess the same reason you have to keep putting them in "time-out", punishing them from t.v., computers, phones, grounding them from extracurricular activities, etc.,etc.,etc......Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne
cause you didn't do it right the first time?Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne
sorry, couldn't resist...;)
Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.
Then this "keep putting them in "time-out", punishing them from t.v., computers, phones, grounding them from extracurricular activities, etc.,etc.,etc......" most definitely qualifies as Insanity.Quote:
Originally Posted by wayne
Now now...the solution is for the kids to all get in a circle with a fuzzy bunny to pet, eat some sprinkled cupcakes and sing kum bah yah, and then ask them why they do bad things.
I approach the situation from a different perspective as I live in another country. In the UK, and in much of Europe, if you hit a child with the intent to hurt them there is every chance you will end up in Court. Other than the obvious case of self defence, hitting anyone is illegal here, whether they are an adult or a child and regardless of whether they are related to you or not related to you. Hitting a child is considered a graver offence as a child has less chance of being able to defend themselves or otherwise do anything to stop the situation.
The law here makes no distinction between who you hit. If you went out in the street and hit a child you didn't know with a belt you would definately go to jail. Again, there is every chance you would go to jail if it was your own child that you hit with a belt.
From a parent's perspective, one part of parenting entails giving your child the best upbringing/opportunities/experiences/education that you can. My own opinion is that you don't do this by demonstrating that when all else fails to work violence is the answer. I don't think an adult hitting a child to re-inforce a point has the desired effect - instead I believe the real effect it has is that it teaches the child that violence towards people who are not able to fight back is acceptable if it means you get your own way.
As I said, this is a different view than that held by other members, and it is one developed as a result of living in a different country. Hopefully having a different perspective will help move the debate forward in a constructive way.
No, I believe what I said was lead by example.
i got hit with a tv last time dad was with my mother, literally, i have a scar on my elbow where the tv hit me
I think we now know why you're obsessed with TV's :)Quote:
Originally Posted by TrashPickingAusKid2
I think this whole t.v. thing is getting blown out of proportion.